Is these thing look normal to u while at the shop

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My gf and I take her car in for warranty work. I was watching this guy doing work on customer car and caught my attention.

When he install oil filter. He dint put oil on the seal and dint fill the oil filter. Install dry.

Next customer gmc 2500 desiel He drop transmission pan and filter. When he fill the transmission fluid he using the same funnel that he use to fill engine oil with on preview customer.

Is those thing look normal to u at the shop ?
 
99% of people do not fill the oil filter. Nothing wrong with that.
Many times there is so much oil left on the oil filter mounting plate that you don't really need to oil the o-ring. Again,no big deal.

The funnel is prob no big deal either.
 
Normal? Probably. Should it be normal? No. It falls under the "What-you-don't-know-won't-hurt-you" category. Kind of like the kids who cook at the fast food joints. They catch flies, and throw em in the deep fryer, and watch em sizzle.
 
I personally either have separate funnels for different types of fluids or clean them out if I switch to something different going through them. Most shops do not care and the shop I worked in didn't care what went where as long as the car started and moved afterward. Scary to me, but typical in most places.
 
I would guess most shops operate that way. Installing a filter without oil in it is not a big deal (even though I would never dream of doing this to my car). But using the same funnel for oil and trans fluid...well I doubt it will ever cause a problem but come on, you have lots and lots of money tied up as the owner of a shop, get the mechanics to use different funnels.

This is one of the reasons I do almost all the work on my cars myself. I don't want a "certified mechanic" dumping some one trans fluid fits all into my trans that calls for ATF+4. Funny that I have never in 22 years of car ownership and a ton of miles ever ever ever had a transmission or engine problem, let alone a failure.
 
Probably not hurting a thing. But if they're sloppy about the little things, what does that say about the overall repair? The big things are made up of lots of little things.
 
My mechanic does apply some oil on the seal but didn't pre-fill the oil filter. He does clean the funnel with a paper towel before use it for transmission.

At home, I cleaned the funnel after each use with paper towel then stored it in a plastic bag.
 
At home I have different funnel for different fluid, oil, atf 4+ , dex/mercon, Also I have some hand pump, one for pump oil ATF out the dipstick hole, one for fill the rear diff, one for fill the ATF 4, one fill for dex/mercon, [censored] those funnel only a dollar at walmart.

I forget to mention, the guy dint event clean the magnet that was on the pan. He dump fluid out the pan and wipe with dirty tower and put seal on, dint event take the magnet out and clean.

when I drop pan from a use car, and saw alot of thing stuck on magnet and fluid still red, I knew who ever last change the fluid never clean the magnet.
 
Originally Posted By: MetalSlug
My gf and I take her car in for warranty work. I was watching this guy doing work on customer car and caught my attention.

When he install oil filter. He dint put oil on the seal and dint fill the oil filter. Install dry.

Next customer gmc 2500 desiel He drop transmission pan and filter. When he fill the transmission fluid he using the same funnel that he use to fill engine oil with on preview customer.

Is those thing look normal to u at the shop ?


Critic, is that you?
 
Are you sure the tech didn't run the filter on the drain pan? When you are draining the oil with one of the big catcher things a shop uses you can usually spin the gasket part of the filter on that funnel into the pan. Using old oil is ok because it never goes into the engine.
 
I wouldn't see a problem with any of it really.

Not quite what I'd do in my own garage, but not really harmful.
 
Sloppy yes, but I can't see it being that big of a deal.....though I've heard the Turbo Diesels have to be "pre filled" with oil or it'll mess up the turbo......likely due to the fact that the oil filter alone on those big trucks takes almost a full quart of oil.....and that's a lot of oil to be pumping through, dry....and go figure, those diesels typically spec 15w40.....which IS "THICK" only....


I know on my car, it's near pointless to "pre fill" my filter, since the filter mounts against the engine horizontally (side to side, not up and down) so the most you can "pre fill" that dinky XG3614 is maybe 1/2 way...

Likewise, I don't think the "pre oiling" of the gasket is that big of a deal....I know on my car, there's still a good amount of oil "pooled up" and sort of "oozing" out of the filter mount location.....
 
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Same here, can't pre-oil either of my vehicles, or the last majority of them either.

Note also that pre-oiling puts oil on the clean side, not the dirty side of the filter.
 
Originally Posted By: PandaBear
Originally Posted By: MetalSlug
My gf and I take her car in for warranty work. I was watching this guy doing work on customer car and caught my attention.

When he install oil filter. He dint put oil on the seal and dint fill the oil filter. Install dry.

Next customer gmc 2500 desiel He drop transmission pan and filter. When he fill the transmission fluid he using the same funnel that he use to fill engine oil with on preview customer.

Is those thing look normal to u at the shop ?


Critic, is that you?


who ?
 
Originally Posted By: tommygunn
Sloppy yes, but I can't see it being that big of a deal.....though I've heard the Turbo Diesels have to be "pre filled" with oil or it'll mess up the turbo......likely due to the fact that the oil filter alone on those big trucks takes almost a full quart of oil.....and that's a lot of oil to be pumping through, dry....and go figure, those diesels typically spec 15w40.....which IS "THICK" only....


I know on my car, it's near pointless to "pre fill" my filter, since the filter mounts against the engine horizontally (side to side, not up and down) so the most you can "pre fill" that dinky XG3614 is maybe 1/2 way...

Likewise, I don't think the "pre oiling" of the gasket is that big of a deal....I know on my car, there's still a good amount of oil "pooled up" and sort of "oozing" out of the filter mount location.....


If it was me, I do still fill some little oil in the filter, and let the filter media observe oil.
 
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