Is Mobil 1 Group 3 or 4?
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Originally Posted By: farrarfan1
Originally Posted By: lexus114
I have an Idea,everyone should go back to conventional oil,change every 3k,and no more worries.
That may very well be one of the best suggestions ever.
I seem to find myself in agreement here but I am not sure of why or how.
Some say engines last much longer now because they are built much better. Some say because lubrication oils are much better. I am simple enough to believe it is a combination of both.
I can remember when you could go to a place called a filing station and buy stuff called motor oil. I can also remember many of these filing stations had an overhaul bay because you would need to overhaul your engine at around 75,000 miles. Bragging rights if you get 100,000 miles. Bring you vehicle in by 8:00 AM Monday morning and they could yank it out, tear it down, reamers, hones, new parts, back together, drive it home Thursday afternoon(provided they didn't have to send bearings out to be re-babbitted) Today, if I had any serious doubt than an engine would not give full service to 200,000 miles, I would not consider that vehicle.
I do not know if the good old days ever were as good as they used to be. When I look at my daily use vehicles, one has 300,000+ miles and one has 208,000+ miles. Both got synthetic from the get go(from 20,000 on the one with 300,000) I have doubts(whether valid or not, doesn't matter with doubts) if I could have done this with say Valvoline premium conventional, Pennzoil conventional, Mobil whatever(clean 5000) conventional. Engines run perfectly, no consumption, no leaks, no seeps, no noises, start before you can release the key.
There seems to be a lot of talk(if you don't hear a good rumor by 10:00 AM, you should feel obligated to start one) about conventional oils soon being non-existent. There will be II+/III blends, III, III/IV blends, and IV.
I do miss being able to buy 5 quarts of a top motor oil and a filter for $3.25. But then, I miss buying a new 1964 Buick convertible for $2,400.00 after all dealing.
Originally Posted By: lexus114
I have an Idea,everyone should go back to conventional oil,change every 3k,and no more worries.
That may very well be one of the best suggestions ever.
I seem to find myself in agreement here but I am not sure of why or how.
Some say engines last much longer now because they are built much better. Some say because lubrication oils are much better. I am simple enough to believe it is a combination of both.
I can remember when you could go to a place called a filing station and buy stuff called motor oil. I can also remember many of these filing stations had an overhaul bay because you would need to overhaul your engine at around 75,000 miles. Bragging rights if you get 100,000 miles. Bring you vehicle in by 8:00 AM Monday morning and they could yank it out, tear it down, reamers, hones, new parts, back together, drive it home Thursday afternoon(provided they didn't have to send bearings out to be re-babbitted) Today, if I had any serious doubt than an engine would not give full service to 200,000 miles, I would not consider that vehicle.
I do not know if the good old days ever were as good as they used to be. When I look at my daily use vehicles, one has 300,000+ miles and one has 208,000+ miles. Both got synthetic from the get go(from 20,000 on the one with 300,000) I have doubts(whether valid or not, doesn't matter with doubts) if I could have done this with say Valvoline premium conventional, Pennzoil conventional, Mobil whatever(clean 5000) conventional. Engines run perfectly, no consumption, no leaks, no seeps, no noises, start before you can release the key.
There seems to be a lot of talk(if you don't hear a good rumor by 10:00 AM, you should feel obligated to start one) about conventional oils soon being non-existent. There will be II+/III blends, III, III/IV blends, and IV.
I do miss being able to buy 5 quarts of a top motor oil and a filter for $3.25. But then, I miss buying a new 1964 Buick convertible for $2,400.00 after all dealing.
Originally Posted By: FrankN4
I do not know if the good old days ever were as good as they used to be.
That's a great line!
I do not know if the good old days ever were as good as they used to be.
That's a great line!
Like Billy Joel said-"the good old days weren't always good and tomorrow ain't as bad as it seems"
Here's a link to a great visual representation of Mobil 1 inre the III vs. IV vs. V discussion.
Note: Sorry, could not mesh the video with the song "Yakety Sax."
Note: Sorry, could not mesh the video with the song "Yakety Sax."
Doug,
Thank you for your comments and your advise.
You are completley right about following the manf. recomendation on type of oil and OCI. If we all did that I'm sure many more miles could be obtained from our vehicles. Many have accused car builders that recomend certain oil companies product as being bought off. But I think they just want the best for their engines in order to keep happy customers coming back.
Thank you for your comments and your advise.
You are completley right about following the manf. recomendation on type of oil and OCI. If we all did that I'm sure many more miles could be obtained from our vehicles. Many have accused car builders that recomend certain oil companies product as being bought off. But I think they just want the best for their engines in order to keep happy customers coming back.
Funny thread the first, second and third time through the wash, but a bit long in tooth now................
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Originally Posted By: FrankN4
I use the Mobil 1 15W-50.
That`s always been my fave Mobil 1 oil. The silver cap version.
I use the Mobil 1 15W-50.
That`s always been my fave Mobil 1 oil. The silver cap version.
I like Mobil 1 0W40 in my LS1
"I seem to find myself in agreement here but I am not sure of why or how."
Probably because its true,and is what has been proven for years.
Probably because its true,and is what has been proven for years.
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