Intake Manifold Parts Questions

[Carlostrece]

I will have these things installed next summer. In the meanwhile, I want to order parts (before tariffs raise prices) but I have some confusion.

In my shopping cart at Amazon, I have:

1) ZZP coolant bypass elbows.

2) FEL-PRO MS 98014 T Engine Intake Manifold Gasket Set, which I understand is for lower intake. Made in USA AFAIK.

3) ATP Automotive Graywerks 106001 Engine Intake Manifold, which I understand is for upper intake. Made in China.

In an earlier thread or perhaps in a PM Trav recommended I use a genuine GM gasket. For the upper or lower intake? i.e. - instead of Felpro lower or ATP upper gasket?

Is ATP a good enough option for upper stuff? I wouldn't mind paying more if there's a better option. Likewise with Felpro.

 

[Astro14]

He gave you a recommendation. You’re choosing to ignore it.

Don’t go buying Chinese parts on Amazon, unless you feel like doing the job over again.

Get genuine GM parts from a reputable source.

Or, ignore what he told you, ask this question on the Internet, look for validation, buy the cheap stuff on Amazon, and hope it works.

 

[Lubener]

I will have these things installed next summer. In the meanwhile, I want to order parts (before tariffs raise prices) but I have some confusion.

In my shopping cart at Amazon, I have:

1) ZZP coolant bypass elbows.

2) FEL-PRO MS 98014 T Engine Intake Manifold Gasket Set, which I understand is for lower intake. Made in USA AFAIK.

3) ATP Automotive Graywerks 106001 Engine Intake Manifold, which I understand is for upper intake. Made in China.

In an earlier thread or perhaps in a PM Trav recommended I use a genuine GM gasket. For the upper or lower intake? i.e. - instead of Felpro lower or ATP upper gasket?

Is ATP a good enough option for upper stuff? I wouldn't mind paying more if there's a better option. Likewise with Felpro.

I have done these jobs on a 3800. This is what I used:

1. I used Dorman metal elbows changed with OEM seals. Make sure you use metal ones. Not familiar with ZZP.
2. I also used Felpro. OEM is also a good choice. Both are metal backed gaskets.
3. ATP is what I used and worked great. Comes with the metal sleeve for the EGR passage. From what I recall, the new upper ATP manifold has an intergral rubber sealing gasket.

I ordered mostly from Rock Auto. Never Amazon.

 

[Astro14]

I have done these jobs on a 3800. This is what I used:

1. I used Dorman metal elbows changed with OEM seals. Make sure you use metal ones. Not familiar with ZZP.
2. I also used Felpro. OEM is also a good choice. Both are metal backed gaskets.
3. ATP is what I used and worked great. Comes with the metal sleeve for the EGR passage. From what I recall, the new upper ATP manifold has an intergral rubber sealing gasket.

I ordered mostly from Rock Auto. Never Amazon.

Thank you for providing real world experience.

 

[Carlostrece]

He gave you a recommendation. You’re choosing to ignore it.

Don’t go buying Chinese parts on Amazon, unless you feel like doing the job over again.

Get genuine GM parts from a reputable source.

Or, ignore what he told you, ask this question on the Internet, look for validation, buy the cheap stuff on Amazon, and hope it works.

I'm not choosing to ignore his advice. I didn't understand his advice because I don't know if he was referring to the upper or lower manifold gasket, or both. I'm seeking clarification to help me understand his advice. I have to understand it to be able to follow it.

You don't need to jump down my throat for asking for clarification.

 

[Astro14]

I'm not choosing to ignore his advice. I didn't understand his advice because I don't know if he was referring to the upper or lower manifold gasket, or both. I'm seeking clarification to help me understand his advice. I have to understand it to be able to follow it.

You don't need to jump down my throat for asking for clarification.

“Jump down my throat”? Please. You PM’d a person for an answer, they took the time to answer you, and you then made this post, which means that you wasted that person’s time, or don’t trust them.

I find both possibilities to be objectionable.

I made my objection known.

 

[Carlostrece]

Before this thread gets locked, I want to state that I appreciate Trav, Lubenor, Fantastic, ZeeOSix, Glenda, and all helpful people at BITOG. Thank you. I appreciate you.

The reason I didn't ask Trav for clarification about which gasket he was referring to was I didn't want to bother him again. He's already been so kind and helpful. I didn't want to be a nuisance to him. Thank you Trav for your expertise, advice, and being a great guy. I appreciate you.

 

[Carlostrece]

I have done these jobs on a 3800. This is what I used:

1. I used Dorman metal elbows changed with OEM seals. Make sure you use metal ones. Not familiar with ZZP.
2. I also used Felpro. OEM is also a good choice. Both are metal backed gaskets.
3. ATP is what I used and worked great. Comes with the metal sleeve for the EGR passage. From what I recall, the new upper ATP manifold has an intergral rubber sealing gasket.

I ordered mostly from Rock Auto. Never Amazon.

Did you use the ATP upper manifold gasket that came with the ATP manifold kit, or did you use a GM OEM upper manifold gasket with the ATP upper manifold?