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I did my taxes for free on the site Credit Karma.
I have a simple return with just standard deductions.
My income is just under 75K.
I filed and paid electronically.
Does the IRS check or look at my return for accuracy?
Or do they just accept a little fish like me at face value?
And i had to pay them.
 
I just heard a news article that 2017 taxes are at the lowest rate for being audited EVER.
Financial sites (such as Motley Fool) seem to back the statement up.
If you had a simple form, I wouldn't worry.
 
I wouldn’t worry. The IRS computers look for red flags like odd business deductions etc.

In your case I would rest easy.
 
Originally Posted By: PimTac
I wouldn’t worry. The IRS computers look for red flags like odd business deductions etc. In your case I would rest easy.


This, from someone who has prepared complex returns for 28 years.
 
Originally Posted By: NormanBuntz
Originally Posted By: PimTac
I wouldn’t worry. The IRS computers look for red flags like odd business deductions etc. In your case I would rest easy.


This, from someone who has prepared complicated returns for 28 years.




Thanks Norman. I’m having mine done on the morning of the 17th. It’s the latest I’ve ever filed.
 
Originally Posted By: PimTac
I wouldn’t worry. The IRS computers look for red flags like odd business deductions etc.

In your case I would rest easy.


Yep. Too many deductions will raise a red flag, especially if you had none the previous years and then you have a bunch for 2017.


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H&R Block 20 year tax specialist told me of a client having to pay IRS $800K in taxes and fines for trying to hide money in foreign banks.
 
They will eventually match the amounts on your return to W2s, 1099s and any other forms that are required to be provided to both you and the IRS.

So much personal tax information is already available to the IRS they could almost prepare your return for you, which is why so few returns are audited. In fact some countries (Australia is one, iirc), send your tax return to you, you make any needed adjustments and return it.
 
The overall picture has to make sense. There have been years where I claimed a lot of business related deductions because I paid out of pocket for travel expenses. The filing I did for last year was dead simple though. It can fluctuate quite a bit.

Supposedly the IRS doesn't even care if you claim income from prostitution or drug dealing as long as you are paying your fair share.
 
My wife's W2 has an extra code on it this year-- when I did my taxes through taxact online this helped sync everything up and presumably reduce errors.

Since the standard deduction is high and getting higher, it would be harm to scam Uncle Sam.

Your credits have to make sense but they're usually pretty cut & dry, and traceable.

And you just have to put your best effort in-- if you used software for help you'll stay out of trouble if you make an honest mistake. It's the dishonest ones that should keep you up nights.
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Glad Credit Karma worked for you. Tried it last year on my return (with business properties) and some forms were unfillable. My girl friend tried it this year on a much simpler return and there were still some glitches.

CK is one of my favorite sites, use it constantly to monitor my credit. They acquired the tax prep business last year, and I trust things will continue to improve. Love Free Tax USA, though.
 
When my wife was in her 20's, a student loan provider didn't file proper paperwork with the IRS to deduct interest.

We deducted the interest and it triggered an audit. My wife made maybe $20k that year as she was enrolled in college still.

We cleared the audit by providing the IRS a letter from the Student Loan company that the interest was valid.

Other than that, nothing.
 
Retired CPA here. As other posters have mentioned, traditional IRS audits are being done at the lowest rates ever. The manual work of examining returns has been replaced by computer programs that search for unusual amounts and relationships. What has been almost universal is the matching of income on the return to amounts reported to the IRS on W-2's, 1099's, K-1's and other reporting forms. It's important to report each amount as it it listed on the reporting form. Some years ago, my father reported a lump sum of interest income that was larger than the total of the three 1099's he received. One payer had neglected to report the income. Because the IRS could not reconcile the return to the 1099's, he got a discrepancy letter, which had to answered and explained. An avoidable hassle. A previous poster mentioned reporting illegal income. I don't know what the IRS would do in most cases, but I did a return once for a professional gambler, who was registered with the IRS. Each month, he sent in a form to pay the 10% federal excise tax on gambling income. The IRS looked the other way and didn't report him for breaking state anti-gambling laws. LOL
 
Originally Posted By: marine65
Does the IRS check or look at my return for accuracy?
Or do they just accept a little fish like me at face value?


Do you go onto IRS message boards to ask what motor oil to use?
Seems that would be as legit as asking an income tax question here.

Consult your tax professional!
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I have multiple family members who are/were accountants; and also from my experience of making two mistakes on taxes over the years (my mistakes were not accounting or deduction mistakes....)
the IRS and your state will "check" your taxes against the information that was transmitted to them by employers and financial institutions. if you are reasonably correct you are probably fine. as stated, audit rates are very low - unless you are a big fish with big potential mistakes.
 
This is how it works in Canada. I would expect that it is roughly the same elsewhere.

First of all, the Tax Software (online included) won't let you make huge errors, or offer a warning if you are trying to use a questionable deduction.

The Tax authority will your return through a very basic audit (one that they do to every return) that checks certain things belong in certain places, based on other information in the return. For example they will check your math, and correct mathematical errors, or check that some value that should have been carried over actually was.

After that, if you aren't claiming certain deductions, you probably have zero to worry about. The areas that will trigger further scrutiny are ones where tax fraud or under-reporting is the most common. Even then, if everything seems fine, that's where it ends.

This part could be different (although if it's legal, I'm sure it happens elsewhere) ... Canada Customs & Revenue Agency (CCRA) will, every year, target certain industries or occupations. One year they may scrutinize Construction workers, another Restaurant workers, or maybe people who were on company-sponsored "conventions" at the Golf Resort, or Sales people who make deductions of auto expenses based on personal / business use ratios.

If you have been "getting away" with certain practices in the past, they might catch you this year. And if they do, they may then go back into past years (limited by law as to how far they can go back).

Once a return is flagged for manual (human) examination, that is one more step where you could get a "pass". There may not necessarily be an audit (yet), the examiner might decide all is fine and that's where it ends.

The remaining returns are slated for audit, or a selection of those (say, every tenth return, or whatever they have the personnel for) are slated for audit.

Being audited isn't the end of the world unless you are really doing something that is clearly illegal and with intent (that also could be different in the US or elsewhere).

I've won one and lost one major dis-agreement, that's over 45 working years, and my tax situations have not always been simple so I am in the group where auditing is more common; there was interest to pay on the one I lost, but nobody was talking about hauling me before a judge or anything like that. Just, no, we're not allowing this, here's your bill.

The bill is another story ... if you think you can avoid paying the tax authorities, well, they make Credit Card default collection agencies seem like timid sheep. You will pay them or they will get the money from you somehow, probably in a way you won't like (like taking your house). So ignore everyone else if you have to and pay the man. That bill was $19,000 and it took me two years to pay it, but pay it I did.

I started doing returns as a way to make extra money going to University (my parents had no money; I worked all through the regular semesters about 20 hours a week painting and drywalling, and all through summer). I don't advertise or promote it to anyone, but I still have a handful of clients that have been with me for decades, and I do their stuff mostly as a favour and at a low (competitively speaking) price.

I have never had one of them be audited or have a major deduction dis-allowed, and I am aggressive and thorough with finding and using deductions clients are eligible for. Same as how I do my own. I mention this because I did at one time take the training course and worked one spring for H&R Block. Companies like that are the opposite ... they claim they seek out every deduction but won't touch anything that might require interpretation or a ruling.

The reason is they advance money on your return, and if a deduction is dis-allowed, they are out of pocket. So they play it safe, no matter what the ads say. They get away with it because nobody ever takes a completed return and all the paperwork to a different accountant and pay to have them essentially do it again. So there is no second opinion, so to speak.
 
Wish a scammer would deposit a large tax return into my checking account. Then when they call to say it was a mistake and I need to send it back to them (fake IRS), I'll just say "thanks man" ... I can use the cash.
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Originally Posted By: Imp4
Originally Posted By: marine65
Does the IRS check or look at my return for accuracy?
Or do they just accept a little fish like me at face value?


Do you go onto IRS message boards to ask what motor oil to use?
Seems that would be as legit as asking an income tax question here.

Consult your tax professional!
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People here spend more time and effort trying to determine the best oil and filter then anywhere on earth.
So i figure if they put half that effort into the tax system they will know everything about it.

And yes I did ask that question on an IRS message board and the said would you ask a tax question on Bob Is The Oil guy forums?
I cant win.
 
Originally Posted By: marine65
And yes I did ask that question on an IRS message board and the said would you ask a tax question on Bob Is The Oil guy forums?
I cant win.

Well played and thanks for following along!


Originally Posted By: marine65
People here spend more time and effort trying to determine the best oil and filter then anywhere on earth.
So i figure if they put half that effort into the tax system they will know everything about it.


True, but BITOG posting in general consists of the following:
47% heresay
22% speculation
16% UOA analysis through varying labs using different techniques and equipment
12% VOA analysis (demonstrating who knows what...)
(insert percentage here)% very knowledgeable individuals
5% bad jokes
2% good jokes

So that should frame it up for BITOG in general
And bad recommendations about motor oil choices won't land you in hot water with the IRS.

Again, consult your tax professional!
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Just do your taxes honestly and correctly and you won't have to worry about raising any red flags. Last thing I want is the IRS sniffing around in my stuff.
 
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