In-N-Out opening in Tennessee along with an eastern headquarters in Nashville area

Hermann said:
Where I live in KC there is a Steak N Shake that is fantastic. Never a lukewarm burger or cold fries. This place is run like a well oiled machine. Freddy's is across the street and it is horrible and twice as expensive. With all of the Smashburger hype these days, didn't Steak N Shake invent/do that decades ago?
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A Steak N Shake opened in an NJ Mall about 10 or so years ago. I made a mental note to stop in to try it out, but it abruptly closed after a few years in business so l have never experienced it. I haven't seen any others in the Northeast.

There's a Freddy's in central NJ, maybe 5 to 10 miles south of Newark airport. It has been on my to visit list, maybe I'll eventually get there, but it will be less likely after reading your posting.
 
Joe1 said:
A Steak N Shake opened in an NJ Mall about 10 or so years ago. I made a mental note to stop in to try it out, but it abruptly closed after a few years in business so l have never experienced it. I haven't seen any others in the Northeast.

There's a Freddy's in central NJ, maybe 5 to 10 miles south of Newark airport. It has been on my to visit list, maybe I'll eventually get there, but it will be less likely after reading your posting.
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Just glad I have a good one. 2 doors down is the best Waffle House. Neither of these places are terribly busy (probably less cool factor), hence you get good service and good food served at the proper temp.
 
Dave Hess said:
****’s Drive In Restaurants are very good and in the Seattle region.

We ate there a few times when visiting.


https://www.ddir.com/
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Been there when visiting Seattle. Style is similar to In-N-Out in terms of size of the burgers and a simple menu. But I remember they had two levels of burgers/cheeseburgers where the basic version didn't have much on it. I'm also looking at their menu and I think it was maybe half the price about 10 years ago.

Plus the location I visited (Queen Anne) wasn't a drive-in.
 
I've never had In n Out but I have a ton of their t shirts. Not sure if they still do it but for a while they used to have great car shirts. Whenever anyone was going to California I used to ask to pick up a couple of shirts.
 
SC Maintenance said:
Yet another fast food joint to lower traffic to local places. Forgive my lack of enthusiasm
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As a company, they treat their employees well, and since they don't franchise, that is consistent amongst all the branches.

I don't think I've ever had a bad experience or encountered a rude worker at one, which can't be said even for a local joint.

So they are a desirable employer to have in the area.

As far as the food, it's relatively good value, and good for a fast food burger. But keep in mind it's still fast food, and gets more hype than it probably deserves.

Many people dislike their fries, and that's because being fresh cut, and fried once is to their detriment, when the expectation is for the kind of texture that a par fried, frozen, and finish fried potato provides, which is what most places provide.

When fast food is the easiest, or only type available, they are one of the better options.
 
Carmudgeon said:
As a company, they treat their employees well, and since they don't franchise, that is consistent amongst all the branches.

I don't think I've ever had a bad experience or encountered a rude worker at one, which can't be said even for a local joint.

So they are a desirable employer to have in the area.

As far as the food, it's relatively good value, and good for a fast food burger. But keep in mind it's still fast food, and gets more hype than it probably deserves.

Many people dislike their fries, and that's because being fresh cut, and fried once is to their detriment, when the expectation is for the kind of texture that a par fried, frozen, and finish fried potato provides, which is what most places provide.

When fast food is the easiest, or only type available, they are one of the better options.
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After eating multiple times at In n Out, I often asked myself "why the cult following"?

In n Out was always exceptionally consistent. Clean, never a stale bun, food prepared and packaged flawlessly, outstanding customer service. Yet, i found the burger good, but not outstanding. I eat out often and have become a zero condiments guy, as most fast food places can't place consistently the quantity of ketchup, the lettuce and tomato flavorless and nasty, etc. I can't eat a slice of onion for one billion dollars. So, I simply order a plain burger at nationwide fast food chains.

The last time I ordered at In n Out, I forgot to say no sauce. The sauce on the In n Out burger was a game changer. Made the In n Out burger from a good burger to a tasty treat. .

In n Out is the real deal when it comes to affordable and consistent fast food on a nationwide basis.
 
I eat there once in a while. If you order right it can be okay. I order single burger with sauce and grilled onions. Fries well done.
 
I love In-N-Out! My son and I eat there quite regularly. They are a CLASS organization; always clean, workers are polite, food is good!

They have mobile trucks, so if you have an event, they will bring the food to you. I don't think the trucks have fries, though. Or at least, I've not experienced that.

One other great thing, they fought the state of California, when during Covid, they wanted to shut them down. They refused to close.

And In-n-out closed their Oakland store, when crime got out of control in the immediate area. Lots of people were butt hurt, but In-n-Out refused to subject their employees to out of control crime in the store area.
 
An In-N-Out burger is a FRIED burger with high calorie thousand island (ish) spread. There are a multitude of better chargrilled burgers that are better where I live.

In addition the fries are dried sticks. And that's insulting trees....

On the rare occasion I go to this place I order a cheeseburger with no spread but ketchup, pickle and mustard.
Yes-the hype regarding a mediocre fried burger is amazing.
 
Nessism1 said:
And In-n-out closed their Oakland store, when crime got out of control in the immediate area. Lots of people were butt hurt, but In-n-Out refused to subject their employees to out of control crime in the store area.
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There's a Raising Cane's in the area. Personally I wouldn't risk stopping anywhere in that vicinity. If I'm going to the airport, I'm going straight to the airport. If anyone wants In-N-Out, there are ones in San Leandro (which isn't necessarily known for being safe either), Hayward, and Alameda.

There's this perception that all of Oakland is a hellhole. I was recently walking down Piedmont Ave in Oakland and that's fine. Temescal, Rockridge, Claremont, Montclair, Piedmont Ave, Lakeshore are all fine, but there's a lot of East Oakland that's just gotten really bad.
 
What a mish-mash of a thread; from a corporate relocation to fragmented hamburger stories.

There was a TV commercial for Red Robin (a recently defunct family restaurant chain).
I took notice because one opened next door to where I met my wife.
I mentioned to a pal that I wanted to try a burger there.
He said, "Don't bother. It's nothing special."

Then I realized, it's just another chain...the likes of which I have avoided all my life.

These joints do come and go. The size of the market penetration changes, but the grease, sugar and fat profile does not.

I wish John Q. Public could abandon the chain restaurant concept. It would enrich the soil for singular establishments to grow.
 
Owen Lucas said:
Smart move to exit California. Lower taxes, lower wages due to reduced cost of living in TN, and probably less bonkers HR / labor regulations. Win-win especially if you follow the company to TN.
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What? They aren't exiting California. They're moving their headquarters from Irvine to Baldwin Park. Two-thirds of their locations are in California and they're building new locations in California. A large majority of their employees (they don't franchise) are in California.
 
y_p_w said:
There's a Raising Cane's in the area. Personally I wouldn't risk stopping anywhere in that vicinity. If I'm going to the airport, I'm going straight to the airport. If anyone wants In-N-Out, there are ones in San Leandro (which isn't necessarily known for being safe either), Hayward, and Alameda.
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Reports are that Raising Cane's is buying a property in Berkeley, California less than a block away from the UC Berkeley campus. There's actually quite a few chains in the area like Super Duper, Taco Bell (a Cantina location with alcohol), etc. The price of the property is sky high though. I know the location. Formerly a Gap store, and it's shaped like an L. It currently hosts a Walgreens, although it's not sure if the property might be partitioned with the Walgreens size being reduced, or if they might leave.

They were originally planning on building a location at the ground floor of a new student housing project but pivoted from doing that.

The Louisiana-headquartered fast food chain reportedly paid $12.7 million to purchase the retail property in an all-cash deal, according to county records reviewed by the East Bay Times. The property currently houses a Walgreens location, which is a stone’s throw from the UC Berkeley campus. According to the outlet, the drugstore’s lease runs through 2036 but gives Walgreens the ability to terminate its lease in 2026 or 2031.​
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Raising Cane’s originally expected to open on the ground floor of a student housing complex at 2580 Bancroft Way in Berkeley until the chain pivoted in 2022. At the time, a spokesperson for Raising Cane’s told SFGATE that the chain planned to search for a new Berkeley site that was “a better fit for Cane’s.”​
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The fast food chain, best known for its crispy chicken tenders, has slowly inched its way into the Bay Area over the past few years. Raising Cane’s opened its first Bay Area outpost in Oakland to much praise in 2022 and later opened stores in Vacaville, Hayward, Colma and Fairfield. Next month, Raising Cane’s anticipates opening its first South Bay store in San Jose on April 1, according to its website.​
 
Kira said:
What a mish-mash of a thread; from a corporate relocation to fragmented hamburger stories.

There was a TV commercial for Red Robin (a recently defunct family restaurant chain).
I took notice because one opened next door to where I met my wife.
I mentioned to a pal that I wanted to try a burger there.
He said, "Don't bother. It's nothing special."

Then I realized, it's just another chain...the likes of which I have avoided all my life.

These joints do come and go. The size of the market penetration changes, but the grease, sugar and fat profile does not.

I wish John Q. Public could abandon the chain restaurant concept. It would enrich the soil for singular establishments to grow.
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I always think this is funny. What do you think this chain restaurant started out as? Yep, singular establishment that grew.
 
Joe1 said:
A Steak N Shake opened in an NJ Mall about 10 or so years ago. I made a mental note to stop in to try it out, but it abruptly closed after a few years in business so l have never experienced it. I haven't seen any others in the Northeast.
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We got a steak and shake a few years ago. It was open a few months then it got shut down for not paying the employees. I don't think they ever got paid.

Then it opened again about a year ago. I have been there 2x lately and I am the only customer in the place at lunchtime.


The Chick-fil-A in the same parking lot always has a huge line.
I doubt steak and shake will be open much longer.
 
Chris142 said:
We got a steak and shake a few years ago. It was open a few months then it got shut down for not paying the employees. I don't think they ever got paid.

Then it opened again about a year ago. I have been there 2x lately and I am the only customer in the place at lunchtime.


The Chick-fil-A in the same parking lot always has a huge line.
I doubt steak and shake will be open much longer.
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Steak 'n Shake has franchise outlets. Sounds like a crooked franchisee set up a store in your area. I hope the workers wound up getting paid.
 
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