J, are useing bargin brand tin foil again!!! It is common knoldge that you have to double up the bargin brand tin foil or the mind control rays can still penatrate!
Idiots on Parade again on 60 Minutes.
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Oops, instead of tin foil I've been using oldquote:
Originally posted by JohnBrowning:
J, are useing bargin brand tin foil again!!! It is common knoldge that you have to double up the bargin brand tin foil or the mind control rays can still penatrate!
surplus army helmets, but recently I switched
to a nice Kevlar helmet
Kevlar is not metal. So, it doesn't do anything
to mind control rays.
I'll need to line the inside of the helmet with
name-brand tin foil.
jae
Pablo, in no way am I stating there's some fundamental conspiracy behind the Bush administrations power to take back Babylon in a religous/prophecy notion. It's just one of those little bits of trivia that ithces my brain, that's all
Man, is this a good thread to stay the he!l out of!
You gotta have a 2 layers of tin foil with paper in between for the flux capacitor effect. It returns the mind control ray and allows you to take control of the person sending the rays. Then a lattice of sharpie lines on the paper to redirect the flux away away from the sensitive parts of your brain.quote:
Originally posted by JohnBrowning:
J, are useing bargin brand tin foil again!!! It is common knoldge that you have to double up the bargin brand tin foil or the mind control rays can still penatrate!
Dan (I am not paranoid, people are out to get me!)
Even though I don't go to church (except for weddings and funerals), I am a religious person. I am still lighting candles for my mother and father in the old church more than 13 years after they died. I am not real big on reading the Bible, but I went to Cathecism class until I was 18, and I know the Bible fairly well. I don't think it is wise to take the Bible too literally. It is an important book, but God wants us I think to use our own minds.
Somewhere in the Bible, I think in the Book of Revealations, is a statement to the effect that there will be 144,000 virgin males who will be saved. I am using this just as an example and I am not trying to make fun of anybody's religious beliefs (and remember, before you start hating me, that I am very religious). Now, I rather think that God is going to find a few women worth saving. I can't speak for God, and I am not trying to speak for God. But that is my opinion. And I also think that God will likely find a few men who are not virgins who are worth being saved. Again, just my opinion.
If there is one law we should live by, it is this: Treat others as you would have them treat you. We would all get in less trouble if we followed this simple concept. Or put in a somewhat different way: Do as you will, if it harm none.
Somewhere in the Bible, I think in the Book of Revealations, is a statement to the effect that there will be 144,000 virgin males who will be saved. I am using this just as an example and I am not trying to make fun of anybody's religious beliefs (and remember, before you start hating me, that I am very religious). Now, I rather think that God is going to find a few women worth saving. I can't speak for God, and I am not trying to speak for God. But that is my opinion. And I also think that God will likely find a few men who are not virgins who are worth being saved. Again, just my opinion.
If there is one law we should live by, it is this: Treat others as you would have them treat you. We would all get in less trouble if we followed this simple concept. Or put in a somewhat different way: Do as you will, if it harm none.
One thing about the Bible, it may truly have started as God's word, but a few things got lost in translation as man messed with it...and messed with it and deleted stuff, and translated again...
More than one passage will just be way outa whack....mostly good parables and a lot of stuff that really isn't understandable.
More than one passage will just be way outa whack....mostly good parables and a lot of stuff that really isn't understandable.
Mystic,
I can tell from the many posts you have written that you are a sincere person and that what you say you say from your heart. I just want to point out that the passage you cite from Revelation (Chapter 14 vv 1-5) describes a very specific group of people who are NOT the ONLY ONES who will be saved. If you look earlier in the book (Chapter 7) ANOTHER 144,000 are mentioned and there is no indication these are exclusively male. And even THEY do not represent ALL who will be saved, only another group from the specific period of time covered by Revelation. Again, they are a special group (from the 12 tribes of Israel) who are mentioned but the intention is not to say that they and they alone will be saved. Didn't want you under a misimpression.
Regards...
Paul
[ February 10, 2004, 12:31 AM: Message edited by: pscholte ]
I don't often laugh at news programs, but I did
laugh when 60 minutes showed the video tape
which was meant for those who were left behind
to face the apocalypse and eternal ****ation.
... how stupid and how petty can people get?
First, no one is getting beamed up, and second
what's the point of the video tape other than to
gloat?
Again, I'm not calling all religious people
idiots. It's just the ones who think they need
to make video tapes to gloat about something
that will never happen.
And these people don't live by your sage advice,
Mystic.
Jae
Jae - this thread keeps running and you keep posting. But, again, I didn't watch the show. I'll keep it simple:
What was the point of this 15-20 minute segment on 60 minutes?
What was the point of this 15-20 minute segment on 60 minutes?
If you're referring to the "They burn in **** " comment, it was meant to be sarcastic, ironic, whatever. Of course people don't go to **** for having a different religion, at least in my opinion.
I stand by my other comments, however.
The point of the show was ostensibly to reveal
the strength of the Evangelical movement in
the U.S (70 million) and its influence on
American life, including politics. There was
an evident bias in the reporting, as is always
the case with 60 Minutes. Also, the show did
not cover all Christians in Ameircan. It only
covered the Evangelicals, especially the ones
that buy the "Left Behind" series of books.
Again, religion is cool. I too believe in God,
but a just and forgiving God. Why would we
endow God with all negative qualities of human
beings?
jae
Thanks Jae. That's the part I was missing. I mean to some people, if you isolate some single portion of ANY religion it seems pretty silly to an outsider. Be it Bhuddist, Hindu, or some native island religion...
No single religion should ever run our great country, but I think people really blow it out of proportion. If anything, in the last 20-30 years there has been a huge removal of anything remotely religous from public life.
No single religion should ever run our great country, but I think people really blow it out of proportion. If anything, in the last 20-30 years there has been a huge removal of anything remotely religous from public life.
In relation to this thread I just received a mailing from Walter Cronkite and the Interfaith Alliance. It discusses legislation H.R.235 introduced in congress on behalf of the religious right which will give them unprecedented power and use of government and religion. You can check out more at www.interfaithalliance.org.
MONTGOMERY, Ala. A Christian activist group wants to ask candidates for the Alabama Supreme Court where they attend church.
These nuckleheads need to read the constitution of this great nation. bob woods
These nuckleheads need to read the constitution of this great nation. bob woods
Did you some how miss the part about free exercise there of? Christians have the right to vote against non Christians.
"Also do some research on the neo-conservative movement in connection with bush and ashcroft".
Dan
Good heads up Dan.
One might also want to look at the Philosophy behind neo-conservatism: The political philosophy of Leo Strauss, which is based on a rather radical reading of Plato and his dialogues.
S
[ February 10, 2004, 12:06 PM: Message edited by: Scotto ]
Dan
Good heads up Dan.
One might also want to look at the Philosophy behind neo-conservatism: The political philosophy of Leo Strauss, which is based on a rather radical reading of Plato and his dialogues.
S
[ February 10, 2004, 12:06 PM: Message edited by: Scotto ]
Attending church doesn't make one a good person. I believe we as citizens have a responsibilty to elect the best person for the job regardless of race, age or religious conviction. Even JC acknowledged the difference between that which is secular and that which is religious.
MolaKule
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OK, so this is what they believe. Like the TV or radio, you can turn it off if you disagree with this belief.
People may be convinced by their beliefs, but I don't think their zombies or commys, or Liberal Socialist (Democrats).
To compare any Christian religion, no matter how fundamental you may preceive it be, with militant Islamists is totally ridiculous.
60 minutes has never engaged in real journalism. The media's bias against Christianity and Traditional Values is well documented.
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Do these people know that the authors of Genesis
borrowed most of their stories from earlier
Mesopotamian civilizations?
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"This is what the secularists would have you believe, but these are not the facts"
Sorry, but they do indeed appear to be facts. Sumerian mythology predates the Old Testament by a good deal, and contains many things that are later found in it.
A fundamental problem with Christianity, and other religions is the claim to exclusiveness. Now, why should Christians be the ones who are correct? Because God said so.
But to a Muslim, God says they are the ones.
Same for many belief systems.
Everybody incorprates or copies traditions from others. Practically every Christian holiday falls on or around the date of an earlier pagan holiday. The reason? Couldn't stop people from celebrating the equinoxes and solstices, so they were just co-opted by the church.
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Do these people know that the authors of Genesis
borrowed most of their stories from earlier
Mesopotamian civilizations?
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"This is what the secularists would have you believe, but these are not the facts"
Sorry, but they do indeed appear to be facts. Sumerian mythology predates the Old Testament by a good deal, and contains many things that are later found in it.
A fundamental problem with Christianity, and other religions is the claim to exclusiveness. Now, why should Christians be the ones who are correct? Because God said so.
But to a Muslim, God says they are the ones.
Same for many belief systems.
Everybody incorprates or copies traditions from others. Practically every Christian holiday falls on or around the date of an earlier pagan holiday. The reason? Couldn't stop people from celebrating the equinoxes and solstices, so they were just co-opted by the church.
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