Maybe if they lied less it would be more attractive. If I got free I wouldn't use it. Now the garbage company provides a bag for the filter with oil recycling jug. Just drain filter, place in bag, put jug and filter out for proper recycling. No home washing of oil filters for this person.
Hubb Oil Filters
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I agree - the lying is out of control. Sometimes the home washing is worth it - depends on how much you value the time vs. $$$.
Originally Posted By: SpecM
True, this is very true for a DIY person. We are looking for offering this to retail customers. JUST RESEARCH RIGHT NOW.
Some customers want something fancy and shiny
Really? "Fancy and shiny" are pretty far down on the list of what I want from an oil filter.
Out of the list of benefits on the website, this one is my favorite:
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Improves oil flow by 5X, thereby reducing engine friction
True, this is very true for a DIY person. We are looking for offering this to retail customers. JUST RESEARCH RIGHT NOW.
Some customers want something fancy and shiny
Really? "Fancy and shiny" are pretty far down on the list of what I want from an oil filter.
Out of the list of benefits on the website, this one is my favorite:
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Improves oil flow by 5X, thereby reducing engine friction
Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
Let's see-$89 for a Hubb, the Fram Ultra is around $9 & good for 15,000 miles, that's 10 Ultras for 150,000 miles worth-that's a pretty long break-even time. Also where does the alleged "30% carbon emissions savings" come from? It won't be from all the energy & chemicals spent cleaning it!
Don't forget to add in the ultrasonic cleaner they also want you to buy. Note that it says in order for the warranty to be valid you must clean the filter in accordance with their recommended cleaning process.
Let's see-$89 for a Hubb, the Fram Ultra is around $9 & good for 15,000 miles, that's 10 Ultras for 150,000 miles worth-that's a pretty long break-even time. Also where does the alleged "30% carbon emissions savings" come from? It won't be from all the energy & chemicals spent cleaning it!
Don't forget to add in the ultrasonic cleaner they also want you to buy. Note that it says in order for the warranty to be valid you must clean the filter in accordance with their recommended cleaning process.
I bet a guy could clean it pretty easily without the special washing machine thingy.
If it really filters like it claims i would use it. It would pay its self off after a while and you could use it on your next vehicle if it had the same size filter.
Its the over the top marketing that turns me away from probably ever really considering it.
If it really filters like it claims i would use it. It would pay its self off after a while and you could use it on your next vehicle if it had the same size filter.
Its the over the top marketing that turns me away from probably ever really considering it.
Originally Posted By: SpecM
I'm looking at their claims, and looking for honest opinions and possibly more info.
http://www.hubbfilters.com/
In the video he says the filter "increased oil flow to your engine by 5 times" (time 0:35 ~ 0:38). That is completely false. The only thing is will do is decrease the delta-p across the filter a few PSI, but the oil flow will still be the same because of the positive displacement oil pump used in engines.
It could help increase oil flow on a race car that is at redline a lot compared to a normal spin-on filter that might have much higher delta-p at high engine RPM, especially if running thicker oil viscosity at the track. IMO, for racers this filter might be worth using. For normal street use ... save your money.
I'm looking at their claims, and looking for honest opinions and possibly more info.
http://www.hubbfilters.com/
In the video he says the filter "increased oil flow to your engine by 5 times" (time 0:35 ~ 0:38). That is completely false. The only thing is will do is decrease the delta-p across the filter a few PSI, but the oil flow will still be the same because of the positive displacement oil pump used in engines.
It could help increase oil flow on a race car that is at redline a lot compared to a normal spin-on filter that might have much higher delta-p at high engine RPM, especially if running thicker oil viscosity at the track. IMO, for racers this filter might be worth using. For normal street use ... save your money.
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
IMO, for racers this filter might be worth using. For normal street use ... save your money.
I would be "up" for such a device, but with some qualifiers. First off, it would have to truly be efficient enough to beat what's out there with regards to normal, disposable filters. I would also expect this to be durable. I don't want to be replacing it after 5 OCIs, for instance. I'd also like it to be cheap, at least cheap enough that it looks good in the long run, and cheap enough to buy two for an application. It makes more sense, at least to me, if you can change your oil, and take the dirty one off and clean and dry it at your leisure, rather than leaving the vehicle on ramps while piddling with a filter cleaning.
IMO, for racers this filter might be worth using. For normal street use ... save your money.
I would be "up" for such a device, but with some qualifiers. First off, it would have to truly be efficient enough to beat what's out there with regards to normal, disposable filters. I would also expect this to be durable. I don't want to be replacing it after 5 OCIs, for instance. I'd also like it to be cheap, at least cheap enough that it looks good in the long run, and cheap enough to buy two for an application. It makes more sense, at least to me, if you can change your oil, and take the dirty one off and clean and dry it at your leisure, rather than leaving the vehicle on ramps while piddling with a filter cleaning.
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It makes more sense, at least to me, if you can change your oil, and take the dirty one off and clean and dry it at your leisure, rather than leaving the vehicle on ramps while piddling with a filter cleaning.
Good point! Since I do my changes outside in the driveway many of them have been rushed between rain storms or snow storms. It would be a better idea to have two sets so you could swap in the clean one while cleaning the dirty one at your leisure. For example, a good overnight soak might make the job easier.
It makes more sense, at least to me, if you can change your oil, and take the dirty one off and clean and dry it at your leisure, rather than leaving the vehicle on ramps while piddling with a filter cleaning.
Good point! Since I do my changes outside in the driveway many of them have been rushed between rain storms or snow storms. It would be a better idea to have two sets so you could swap in the clean one while cleaning the dirty one at your leisure. For example, a good overnight soak might make the job easier.
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