How to Value a small business

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So without adding cost of fixing and replacing any equipment that may fail, or any other supplies and insurance, it currently COSTS $3,000+ per month to run, and it MAKES $2,945?

Your IQ level must be less than 50 if you think you could possibly make money doing this.
 
A gym in general is a tough business. I know this from family that is in the business. The competition is cut throat and you have to keep up constant improvements. Costs always explode out of control. A simple upgrade can turn into a 2 month renovation, which may force a temporary closure. For a small business that is a certain death. I could go on and on about the negatives that can happen but I will just leave it. I would avoid this type of business at all costs.
 
Originally Posted By: wn1998
Good morning. I have been approached to buy out one of the co-owners of a small business due to some health issues of that owner. The only problem is that the Co-owner looking to sell has severely overvalued his 49% of the business.

This is for a small, 3 year old Crossfit gym with 28 current members that generates roughly $2,945 per month.

Rent is $1600
Utilities are $100 in the summer and $225 in the winter
Staffing is roughly $1,020/month
Insurance- I'm not sure yet of the cost
Affiliation fee- $250/month ($3,000 per year)
Current equipment Value-$14,000
Gym currently holds $10K worth of debt for recent equipment and upgraded registration system.

The "sale" price I was told was $27k. My offer would be somewhere around 7-10K. I have looked into a "Valuation" done by a local accountant but the cost made it too expensive ($1500-$2000).

My question is after I get my copy of the books is there an easy formula to try to show the owner that this business isn't worth what he thinks it is? He is a total Alpha male and built this from the ground up three years ago but it hasn't taken off how he thought it would. Also, he told me he knows a 27K investment will pay me back in two years. No way at the current numbers.

Why would I want to buy into a business that seems like it could fail any month? I think the lack of marketing and the current price structure is poop. I think if we added some marketing efforts and listened to our customer feedback, I can add 2-3 members per month. I know I wouldn't get rich here or be able to quit my day job but I feel like I could double our membership in one year with a proper marketing effort.

Any business GuRU's want to give me some advice?


Based on your numbers, the EBIDTA is negative...

The way I would value it would be to look at the free cash flows (which in this case is negative, and treat it as a perpetual dividend (the formula can be found on the internet). Since it seems to be a risky proposition, use 16% discount rate.

Then add to it the net fair market value of the assets and reduce it by any debts.

In this situation, the value of the business should be around $2k.

You may add value for things like goodwill, etc. but even at that your $7k seems to be overvalued.

And remember, as a buyer you have to arrive at the lower end of the spectrum for value so that you have room to negotiate.
 
Originally Posted By: Nick1994
So without adding cost of fixing and replacing any equipment that may fail, or any other supplies and insurance, it currently COSTS $3,000+ per month to run, and it MAKES $2,945?

Your IQ level must be less than 50 if you think you could possibly make money doing this.


CrossFit usually doesn't have much of equipment that can break. It's weights, etc. and a few rowing machines.
 
Originally Posted By: surfstar
Guys, cross fit isn't a FAD!

How insulting.

Its a cult.


First rule of crossfit, flood your Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Tumblr, and Snapchat with posts about crossfit to the point your friends never talk to you again.
 
I know a few very (really beyond) rich folks who worked around planet fitness model of gym and own franchises.

Many members who pay a little and barely use is much better money maker then paying more with less.
 
Those gyms are a fad. My aunt had three Zumba studios when it was good, now every gym in the world offers it so its worthless.

Crossfit is no different, in a few years it will be something else.

Gym's can make a good buck, but they tend to deal in programs like Crossfit, Zumba, pilates, etc. At their height her studios were the only game in town and she was taking in $20k-$30k am month per studio. Now they are all gone, and the only Zumba places left are small and branch out. Basically like this gym a handful of members.

The way I see it the business is worth nothing now, its just a start of a business.
 
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Originally Posted By: rjundi
I know a few very (really beyond) rich folks who worked around planet fitness model of gym and own franchises.

Many members who pay a little and barely use is much better money maker then paying more with less.



Correct the business model to make money in this industry involves having a lot of members who pay a little and never use it.

Or you start a fad that takes off, since people are always jumping around. Like Crossfit.
 
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
A Jamba Juice next to Gold's Gym would be a better business plan.


A Habit Burger or something similar about 2 doors down would be ideal.
 
Not a chance. The truth is at 49% you get absolutely no say in anything and it's your money in the floor.
I wouldn't touch it. No way. To mount a successful marketing campaign,which I am right now doing for my business,is at least 2500 a month.
And that's out of pocket cash flow. Minimum.
If your numbers are even close it's a losing proposition and even if you do buy in you are a minority shareholder with no say in how the business moves forward.
Dragons den said it best

IM OUT
 
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