I was convinced our first Model 3 was a nice toy, around town car, etc.
That's acceptable-- road damage goes up with the fourth power of axle weight. My state taxes up to 6000 lbs Commercial the same as a passenger car so we'll probably see weight class tiers.
Im being teased by the Juniper y performance - prob a great ride and if you can get panasonic based pack typical of fremont then it should be pretty sweet.
Totally believe you. I just have so many other things to deal with at this stage in our lives. Of course I eat, breath and sleep all things automotive and can never get enough. I admit to being a 1000% total automotive junkie for most of my 69 years on this mother earth.
Totally believe you. I just have so many other things to deal with at this stage in our lives. Of course I eat, breath and sleep all things automotive and can never get enough. I admit to being a 1000% total automotive junkie for most of my 69 years on this mother earth.
I realize and talk to my wife, sons and several friends and ex-coworkers often about how much I lament the fact that certain countries... USA big time guilty, did not follow the examples of Europe and so many other countries.
I would actually love to live in some areas of the world where the towns and cities are NOT set up totally dependent on personal ownership of automobiles. I love how there are so many places in Europe and other places that have towns that are devised and planned out with enough public transportation , designated walking paths / routes and options available so that many residents can actually live nice productive lives, going to daily full time jobs or personal travel without the need to own private vehicles of any sort.
They not only get to avoid all costs associated with personal private ownership, storage, insurance costs, etc... they also get the benefits of being in easy walking distance of so many places. Also the great and enjoyable health benefits of exercising by walking to where they need to go.
Unlike the current great reduced amounts of levels of auto and trucking pollutants other countries enjoy, the USA's private vehicle ownership society has only grown larger and more complicated to deal with. We suffer from far more pollution, to much more personal costs associated with private ownerships. Wildly large traffic jams all over, to speeding and safety issues with so many roads constantly crowded 24x7 , 365 days a year.
Currently owning any EVs are way down our current priority list but are still not totally ruled out.
As I have said. I have no hate (like quite a few) for the EV industry. I do have a real solid "dislike" as quite a few others have mentioned when/if anyone tries to tell me what products I am going to be forced to own.
As a FREE MAN citizen of these United States , what I am and am not going accept without a fight is to be told I can not be selecting for my personal use certain things that we all know are still very much allowed other places all across the globe.
I am totally confident that one day, in time , just like so many other new , innovative and modern products (just like today's + future EVs) that industry will take off and make its mark in several ways.
The EV will certainly not become the greatest , world changing inventive technology ever that some dreamers believe , but they will surely make their mark. Time and great patience always works out in the end so very much better and turns out so much more successful changes in the long run when not blindly pushed too very fast
So , maybe we all need to just hang on there for the ride and see where and how fast these new EV technologies can take us, Hopefully into a great new world of sensible variety as we come to be able to decide what each of our personal needs can be met by what new technologies. Also of course which ones each of us can actually afford.
Our state has justified lowering 1 ton and deuce and a half pu registrations far below hybrid stating that everything under 12,000lbs doesn’t cause any measurable road damage.
Yeah, to @macarose statement just one example is the state of South Carolina has no inspections or mileage recording.
Sure there is, EVs are avoiding the 18.5 cents a gallon federal highway funds tax.
Which is the same as avoiding absolutely nothing as I will show later as that 18 cents basically doesn’t pay any significant portion of fed road funding.
We can rest assured , some of them are already working behind closed doors on new ways to legally rob / I mean tax anyone who is driving ANYTHING on the highways. If you drive a horse , they will tax the horse feed, etc.... Steam engine? H2O taxes.... No one can escape it.
We are all (well, those who earn a living) in the stew pot together. 
I know. I mean, they build themselves. I woke up this morning, and a new HWY popped out of nowhere. But they want me to pay tax. Bastards.We can rest assured , some of them are already working behind closed doors on new ways to legally rob / I mean tax anyone who is driving ANYTHING on the highways. If you drive a horse , they will tax the horse feed, etc.... Steam engine? H2O taxes.... No one can escape it.
The thing is, we have 99% of the maniacs we sent to Washington DC who are addicted to spending. Spending OTHER people's monies. They spend it like drunken sailors or a bunch of kids let loose at spring break with mom & dad's credit cards. What is really frustrating is all the many ways that have been exposed recently where massive amounts of our tax dollars have been going. Lots seems criminal to me.
It would be nice if some elves would show up at night and fix all the pot holes and cracked up roads and run down bridges once in a while.
Easy fix, we adjust gas tax to inflation since 1993.It would be nice if some elves would show up at night and fix all the pot holes and cracked up roads and run down bridges once in a while.
Would still be too low. Road wear is a function mostly of PSI in the tires and overall load. Typically mpg now is probably double of 1993, and tire pressure is higher - in some cases to help get to that higher MPG.
Not that I disagree but we aren't her to talk politics nor it is allowed. I simply mention that at some point, EV owners are going to have to pay Federal Highway taxes like gasoline cars do at 18.5 cent a gallon. It's unjust at the present time that EV owners are not paying this tax to use our roadways. However they will, one thing at a time. Meaning they just cancelled the taxpayer handouts to buy an EV, hopefully by next budget we correct this wrong and start taxing EVs for the federal highway funds.We can rest assured , some of them are already working behind closed doors on new ways to legally rob / I mean tax anyone who is driving ANYTHING on the highways. If you drive a horse , they will tax the horse feed, etc.... Steam engine? H2O taxes.... No one can escape it.
The thing is, we have 99% of the maniacs we sent to Washington DC who are addicted to spending. Spending OTHER people's monies. They spend it like drunken sailors or a bunch of kids let loose at spring break with mom & dad's credit cards. What is really frustrating is all the many ways that have been exposed recently where massive amounts of our tax dollars have been going. Lots seems criminal to me.
TRUE
True. All solvable, if there is the courage to tackle it.
Absolutely!
