how to choose a supplier

[hoorani]

Hello everybody.

i'm a trading company overseas and looking to purchase oil with private labeling.

i received many offers from different companies, but i'm confused how to make sure that i'm taking the right decision. How can i really determine if the oil specification is original and not coming with additives and improves. I'm working only with Automatic Transmission for passenger car and i'm looking to purchase oil for the same application. i have no experience at all in the oil field as i work in the sales of spare parts only. so i would really appreciate an advice for an expert for making the right decision.

 

[dnewton3]

You will want to know what vehicle brands and specifications you're tying to fulfill. That will be a starting point. This is primarily an issue between North American, European, and Asian cars. Different specs for different applications. An example would be perhaps a GM Dexron VI license, or Ford Mercon V license. Same for Toyota, Subaru, BMW, Volvo, etc ...


Then, once you've decided on those factors, then approach the suppliers and ask for proof of their licenses to those applications, and then validate the licenses at the origin. If they are not licensed, then ask for detailed information as to how they would otherwise meet the specs, if submitted.


That is a good place to start.

 

[Dufus2]

I would agree with the Global Licensing for your intended market.

You also need to know if you are getting conventional or synthetic formulations, and be aware of 'Top Treating' one fluid to meet all the other specifications. LubeGard is a popular treatment.

 

[hoorani]

Originally Posted By: Dufus2
I would agree with the Global Licensing for your intended market.

You also need to know if you are getting conventional or synthetic formulations, and be aware of 'Top Treating' one fluid to meet all the other specifications. LubeGard is a popular treatment.

hey..
thank you for your reply

Isn't the conventional or synthetic formulations is used for the motor oil.
i mean for the DEX III, do i have to ask for the same thing.

Mainly i will be purchasing DEX III oil as it's the most popular oil type used in middle east. Beside that, I'm not looking to purchase motor oil for now as it's not what i specialize with.

I have one offer from a supplier and when he sent me the oil spec, I found that the VI @ 100 degree is low, so i sent him the spec i have and asked to meet that spec, he agreed but i'm afraid that all he want to do is use VI improvers which will not be good for me.

beside is there a specific way to determine if this oil is treated with lubegard or i should ask the supplier for that!!!!

 

[hoorani]

Originally Posted By: dnewton3
You will want to know what vehicle brands and specifications you're tying to fulfill. That will be a starting point. This is primarily an issue between North American, European, and Asian cars. Different specs for different applications. An example would be perhaps a GM Dexron VI license, or Ford Mercon V license. Same for Toyota, Subaru, BMW, Volvo, etc ...


Then, once you've decided on those factors, then approach the suppliers and ask for proof of their licenses to those applications, and then validate the licenses at the origin. If they are not licensed, then ask for detailed information as to how they would otherwise meet the specs, if submitted.


That is a good place to start.


hey.
Thank you for your advice.

I just wanted to make sure that i got you clearly.

regarding the licenses, you mean i have to get from the supplier the lab report he have for his oil and then contact this lab to make sure that he provided the supplier with this oil report or you mean something else.

thx

 

[eljefino]

If their base fluid won't meet your spec, don't let them "try again", as whatever they put in will be a nasty additive.

Dex III in and of itself has expired, so you can't find an official license. Here in the States we seem to trust the major oil companies to make a tolerable product to cover this.

There's an Allison spec written to cover the "old dex 3" one; if you can get it certified to that spec it'd be a start.

 

[Whitewolf]

Try Shell or Petro Canada. If you need contacts just let me know.

 

[Trav]

PM Falcon_LS, he is in Kuwait and has knowledge and some contacts for this sort of thing.

 

[hoorani]

Originally Posted By: Whitewolf
Try Shell or Petro Canada. If you need contacts just let me know.


thank you for the offer but these people need a very big volume for a private labeling which i can't manage at the current time.

 

[MolaKule]

Quote:
thank you for the offer but these people need a very big volume for a private labeling which i can't manage at the current time.


Contact Warren Performance Packaging or Smitty's or Schaeffer Oil.

You will have to have a contract, lubrication specifications and the production will not be instantaneous - so plan ahead.