How do you charge at home?

The receptacle was installed over 8 years ago if I had to guess. It has charged the original RAV4 EV and 2 (or 3) Bolts. Their Juice Box was plugged in and not unplugged until almost 2 weeks ago when they started using the Lexus RZ350E Mobile Connector. I don't know what a Bolt pulls, 32A maybe? I don't know what setting my neighbors have been using over the years.

There was no tell-tale problem AFAIK. Of course zi don't hang out much in their garage...
Since their new car's port moved from the Bolt's driver rear fender to the RZ passenger front fender, I had my electrician guy come and move the NEMA 14-50 receptacle. Of course he agreed an EV rated receptacle should be used. I was pretty shocked when I saw the old one.

Perhaps @OVERKILL, @UncleDave or others can speak to the extended high load demands of EV charging.
There is a reason for the EV rated receptacles. I urge owners to do it right. As my grandmother from Ukraine used to scold me, "Don't fools around!"
L2 charging at home is just like heating up an oven or a dryer, except the load is a lot longer in duration, which can tax cheap receptacles not designed to be used with that load/draw profile. That's why they make EV-specific ones.
 
The Hubbell is the best, no doubt. A couple of electricians I've spoken to tell me they've installed hundreds of the Leviton.
But I tend to agree with you. Pay once cry once. And sleep well.
The problem I have with Leviton is that they were slow to respond in this space and sold thousands of the cheap ones that are for plugging in household stoves, not EVs. Many later melted. They could have chosen to head off this situation by recalling them and labeling them for "not for use in EV charging" but took no action other than to eventually bring out an EV plug of their own.
 
L2 charging at home is just like heating up an oven or a dryer, except the load is a lot longer in duration, which can tax cheap receptacles not designed to be used with that load/draw profile. That's why they make EV-specific ones.
Thanks Overkill. Do you see or know of any issue with the Leviton that many are using? Asking for a friend (my neighbors!).
 
The Hubbell is the best, no doubt. A couple of electricians I've spoken to tell me they've installed hundreds of the Leviton.
But I tend to agree with you. Pay once cry once. And sleep well.
Leviton has the relationships with the retail stores and the electrical supply houses.
 
The problem I have with Leviton is that they were slow to respond in this space and sold thousands of the cheap ones that are for plugging in household stoves, not EVs. Many later melted. They could have chosen to head off this situation by recalling them and labeling them for "not for use in EV charging" but took no action other than to eventually bring out an EV plug of their own.
A friend does marine electrical work in the Santa Cruz Harbor. He told me about the Hubbell years ago when he replaced the Home Depot NEMA 14-50 with the hard wired Tesla Wall Charger. I was 100% ignorant of the proper requirements at the time.
 
I agree, they should be fine, I just don't like the way the situation was handled by the company.
You're probably right, but I would fault the installer. There's a reason I pay people for stuff above my pay grade. The guy who originally installed our NEMA plug was young but was in the electrical union.
 
How @#18FAN charges at home. 😁

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Just buy the Hubble on Amazon, it is the best. I don't trust Leviton's efforts in this space.
@JeffKeryk There will probably come a time when you can bid on the Hubble Space Telescope but you will be responsible for transportation. Without something like the sapce shuttle it will be challenging to bring it home.
 
The Hubbell is the best, no doubt. A couple of electricians I've spoken to tell me they've installed hundreds of the Leviton.
But I tend to agree with you. Pay once cry once. And sleep well.
Or, man up and hardwire it to a 60 amp circuit… 😏

Pay once. Cry once.
 
L2 charging at home is just like heating up an oven or a dryer, except the load is a lot longer in duration, which can tax cheap receptacles not designed to be used with that load/draw profile. That's why they make EV-specific ones.
Exactly. High, sustained, load. I am genuinely not a fan of having plugs in that circuit.

Or at least, not a fan of having any more plugs than are necessary in that circuit.
 
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