I was looking on E-Bay at small motor carbs for sale, and found the deal of a lifetime. I found a brand new carb for my old Murray snowblower for sale ,shipping included to my house, no taxes involved for $12.35. It took 2 weeks to get here, but that was no problem. I swapped it out for my old one that always weeped gas ,even after replacing all the gaskets twice. I only have a pull start on it, and it started on the 3rd pull. Ran like a champ, idled good, accelerated good, and when I shut it off for a minute , it started up easily. For $12.35 how can they ship it around the world for that price, and still make a profit?.,,
How can they do this?.,,
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Don't worry, the post tariff price will soon be $20.
I've been buying these inexpensive Chinese carbs for OPE's from US sellers off of EBay for a couple of years now. They are a great deal and so far have worked great. Up until this last purchase they were tax free and shipped free for ~$13. However we now have to pay sales tax on internet purchases, but it's not much on a $13 purchase.
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I know what the OP means. I just replaced one as well. To be honest, those carbs are very simple. They cast the bodies at at high speed and then the assembly line is very automated. I'm not sure if there are any " slave labourers" at all.
I know when spark plugs are manufactured they are not touched by humans.
I know when spark plugs are manufactured they are not touched by humans.
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Originally Posted by hatt
You can really keep the costs down with slave wages, no bennies, no environmental regs, etc.
Pretty much. That and their gov't basically subsidizes their industries so they can corner the mkt.
You can really keep the costs down with slave wages, no bennies, no environmental regs, etc.
Pretty much. That and their gov't basically subsidizes their industries so they can corner the mkt.
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Originally Posted by Rand
Because the us postal service subsidizes mail from china meanwhile its 20$ for me to mail something there.
Exactly! They a pay $1 and we pay $20
Can't go global from the USA
I ship worldwide and it is to the point it is no longer affordable to do so.
Because the us postal service subsidizes mail from china meanwhile its 20$ for me to mail something there.
Exactly! They a pay $1 and we pay $20
Can't go global from the USA
I ship worldwide and it is to the point it is no longer affordable to do so.
Originally Posted by Rand
Because the us postal service subsidizes mail from china meanwhile its 20$ for me to mail something there.
It's a little more complicated than that, certainly more than can be explained in a tweet.
Nearly every country on Earth is a member of a global arrangement that dates back to 1874 called the Universal Postal Union. The purpose behind the UPU is to make it possible for anyone from any country, using their home country's postal service, be able to easily send mail to someone in another country.
With the UPU, if I put the appropriate amount of US postage on a letter, it will be delivered in any country that's a member of the UPU. I don't have to worry about having the correct amount of postage for both my country, where the letter is leaving from, and the receiving country, where it will be delivered.
Each country keeps a tally of the mail they've delivered that has originated from another country. The originating country then pays a flat fee to the delivering country based on the quantity of mail delivered. These fees are defined by the UPU and are generally the same across the world. So, if an item is received from Duetsche Post in New York and put into the USPS for delivery to Los Angeles, Germany is billed for the same amount as if it were received and delivered to Newark, New Jersey. As it is, mail volume is measured in tons. Trying to individualize and charge based on actual last mile delivery is difficult to impossible.
The downside of this is when a single country, like China, becomes a mass exporter of mail to the world, the fee structure tilts to their favor since it the flat fee for last mile delivery is generally less than regular domestic post would be. It's also not just a USPS problem, it's a worldwide concern. Pretty much all first-world countries have this same issue.
The solution seems simple: Raise the flat fee. Really, that means everything becomes more expensive because of increased shipping costs and nobody wants to have that on their resume. Dropping out of the UPU would be ridiculous. It would cost the USPS more to create a billing system and individually collect from 200+ nations than the revenue they "lose" through the UPU flat fee.
It's also a bit hypocritical for the United States to be complaining about China being the largest exporter of mail. China only became the largest mail exporter in the last decade or so. Prior t that, the United States held the title for nearly a century.
Because the us postal service subsidizes mail from china meanwhile its 20$ for me to mail something there.
It's a little more complicated than that, certainly more than can be explained in a tweet.
Nearly every country on Earth is a member of a global arrangement that dates back to 1874 called the Universal Postal Union. The purpose behind the UPU is to make it possible for anyone from any country, using their home country's postal service, be able to easily send mail to someone in another country.
With the UPU, if I put the appropriate amount of US postage on a letter, it will be delivered in any country that's a member of the UPU. I don't have to worry about having the correct amount of postage for both my country, where the letter is leaving from, and the receiving country, where it will be delivered.
Each country keeps a tally of the mail they've delivered that has originated from another country. The originating country then pays a flat fee to the delivering country based on the quantity of mail delivered. These fees are defined by the UPU and are generally the same across the world. So, if an item is received from Duetsche Post in New York and put into the USPS for delivery to Los Angeles, Germany is billed for the same amount as if it were received and delivered to Newark, New Jersey. As it is, mail volume is measured in tons. Trying to individualize and charge based on actual last mile delivery is difficult to impossible.
The downside of this is when a single country, like China, becomes a mass exporter of mail to the world, the fee structure tilts to their favor since it the flat fee for last mile delivery is generally less than regular domestic post would be. It's also not just a USPS problem, it's a worldwide concern. Pretty much all first-world countries have this same issue.
The solution seems simple: Raise the flat fee. Really, that means everything becomes more expensive because of increased shipping costs and nobody wants to have that on their resume. Dropping out of the UPU would be ridiculous. It would cost the USPS more to create a billing system and individually collect from 200+ nations than the revenue they "lose" through the UPU flat fee.
It's also a bit hypocritical for the United States to be complaining about China being the largest exporter of mail. China only became the largest mail exporter in the last decade or so. Prior t that, the United States held the title for nearly a century.
Originally Posted by hatt
You can really keep the costs down with slave wages, no bennies, no environmental regs, etc.
that's where I think you are wrong. There IS no labor. These lines are fully automated. The Chinese are much more advanced in manufacturing than most Americans realize.
You can really keep the costs down with slave wages, no bennies, no environmental regs, etc.
that's where I think you are wrong. There IS no labor. These lines are fully automated. The Chinese are much more advanced in manufacturing than most Americans realize.
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Originally Posted by hatt
You can really keep the costs down with slave wages, no bennies, no environmental regs, etc.
that's where I think you are wrong. There IS no labor. These lines are fully automated. The Chinese are much more advanced in manufacturing than most Americans realize.
I doubt the small engine carb plant it as advanced as the Apple plant.
Originally Posted by hatt
You can really keep the costs down with slave wages, no bennies, no environmental regs, etc.
that's where I think you are wrong. There IS no labor. These lines are fully automated. The Chinese are much more advanced in manufacturing than most Americans realize.
I doubt the small engine carb plant it as advanced as the Apple plant.
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The funny thing is that we watch these videos but we don't wonder how China exported 50 billion dollars worth of steel last year. Do you think these yoyo's were part of that?
But thanks for sharing.
But thanks for sharing.
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Originally Posted by Rand
Because the us postal service subsidizes mail from china meanwhile its 20$ for me to mail something there.
It's a little more complicated than that, certainly more than can be explained in a tweet.
Nearly every country on Earth is a member of a global arrangement that dates back to 1874 called the Universal Postal Union. The purpose behind the UPU is to make it possible for anyone from any country, using their home country's postal service, be able to easily send mail to someone in another country.
With the UPU, if I put the appropriate amount of US postage on a letter, it will be delivered in any country that's a member of the UPU. I don't have to worry about having the correct amount of postage for both my country, where the letter is leaving from, and the receiving country, where it will be delivered.
Each country keeps a tally of the mail they've delivered that has originated from another country. The originating country then pays a flat fee to the delivering country based on the quantity of mail delivered. These fees are defined by the UPU and are generally the same across the world. So, if an item is received from Duetsche Post in New York and put into the USPS for delivery to Los Angeles, Germany is billed for the same amount as if it were received and delivered to Newark, New Jersey. As it is, mail volume is measured in tons. Trying to individualize and charge based on actual last mile delivery is difficult to impossible.
The downside of this is when a single country, like China, becomes a mass exporter of mail to the world, the fee structure tilts to their favor since it the flat fee for last mile delivery is generally less than regular domestic post would be. It's also not just a USPS problem, it's a worldwide concern. Pretty much all first-world countries have this same issue.
The solution seems simple: Raise the flat fee. Really, that means everything becomes more expensive because of increased shipping costs and nobody wants to have that on their resume. Dropping out of the UPU would be ridiculous. It would cost the USPS more to create a billing system and individually collect from 200+ nations than the revenue they "lose" through the UPU flat fee.
It's also a bit hypocritical for the United States to be complaining about China being the largest exporter of mail. China only became the largest mail exporter in the last decade or so. Prior t that, the United States held the title for nearly a century.
Here's a few other links, Basically the low postal prices put a lot of small business out of business as they couldn't compete on the shipping price due to the discounts that were giving. It was estimated that the post office lost about about 170 million in 2017 and about 134 million in 2016 and the losses keep increasing. You see it on eBay, the lowest prices for certain items are from China and the US business are much more money. Now those US business are gone and it's just business shipping from China.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/withdrawal-universal-postal-union-guide-perplexed
https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...aw-from-international-postal-rate-system
Originally Posted by Rand
Because the us postal service subsidizes mail from china meanwhile its 20$ for me to mail something there.
It's a little more complicated than that, certainly more than can be explained in a tweet.
Nearly every country on Earth is a member of a global arrangement that dates back to 1874 called the Universal Postal Union. The purpose behind the UPU is to make it possible for anyone from any country, using their home country's postal service, be able to easily send mail to someone in another country.
With the UPU, if I put the appropriate amount of US postage on a letter, it will be delivered in any country that's a member of the UPU. I don't have to worry about having the correct amount of postage for both my country, where the letter is leaving from, and the receiving country, where it will be delivered.
Each country keeps a tally of the mail they've delivered that has originated from another country. The originating country then pays a flat fee to the delivering country based on the quantity of mail delivered. These fees are defined by the UPU and are generally the same across the world. So, if an item is received from Duetsche Post in New York and put into the USPS for delivery to Los Angeles, Germany is billed for the same amount as if it were received and delivered to Newark, New Jersey. As it is, mail volume is measured in tons. Trying to individualize and charge based on actual last mile delivery is difficult to impossible.
The downside of this is when a single country, like China, becomes a mass exporter of mail to the world, the fee structure tilts to their favor since it the flat fee for last mile delivery is generally less than regular domestic post would be. It's also not just a USPS problem, it's a worldwide concern. Pretty much all first-world countries have this same issue.
The solution seems simple: Raise the flat fee. Really, that means everything becomes more expensive because of increased shipping costs and nobody wants to have that on their resume. Dropping out of the UPU would be ridiculous. It would cost the USPS more to create a billing system and individually collect from 200+ nations than the revenue they "lose" through the UPU flat fee.
It's also a bit hypocritical for the United States to be complaining about China being the largest exporter of mail. China only became the largest mail exporter in the last decade or so. Prior t that, the United States held the title for nearly a century.
Here's a few other links, Basically the low postal prices put a lot of small business out of business as they couldn't compete on the shipping price due to the discounts that were giving. It was estimated that the post office lost about about 170 million in 2017 and about 134 million in 2016 and the losses keep increasing. You see it on eBay, the lowest prices for certain items are from China and the US business are much more money. Now those US business are gone and it's just business shipping from China.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/withdrawal-universal-postal-union-guide-perplexed
https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...aw-from-international-postal-rate-system
Also have to figure in the exchange rate. $1 US in China is much more valuable than here.
Thanks for the info on how the international postal network works.
Originally Posted by Snagglefoot
The funny thing is that we watch these videos but we don't wonder how China exported 50 billion dollars worth of steel last year. Do you think these yoyo's were part of that?
But thanks for sharing.
Here are some more Chinese steel workers not actually part of the Chinese steel industry.
The funny thing is that we watch these videos but we don't wonder how China exported 50 billion dollars worth of steel last year. Do you think these yoyo's were part of that?
But thanks for sharing.
Here are some more Chinese steel workers not actually part of the Chinese steel industry.
I like the one showing the train.
If you like trains as well, I've included this website to book yourself a train ride in China. www.travelchinaguide.com/china-trains
The slow one travels at 186 mph. Top speed; 217 mph. They have 15,500 miles of high speed train networks.
If you like trains as well, I've included this website to book yourself a train ride in China. www.travelchinaguide.com/china-trains
The slow one travels at 186 mph. Top speed; 217 mph. They have 15,500 miles of high speed train networks.
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