Honda Civic 1.8 R18A2, Mobil 1 FS 0W40 API SP, 10.1k km, 469.5k km

[CivicFK2TypeR]

Hello everyone. Here is a new analysis of my Honda, which is used daily for all things in everyday life. It is once again a further proof that the new formulations of mobil 1 do not represent deteriorations, as described by many in some German forums by "experts". The engine runs like clockwork, which is confirmed by consumption, power and performance every day.

 

[fantastic]

10,076 Kilometers or 6,260.93 Miles
It doesn't seem like your Honda puts any sort of strain on this FS Mobil product. Very good & Thanks for sharing. I've been using the 5w-40 variant & am happy with it thus far.

 

[CivicFK2TypeR]

I will stick with the 20000 kilometre intervals, the engine fits this oil perfectly.

 

[Oliveoil2]

Did you add any make up oil?

 

[CivicFK2TypeR]

I have only added 0.5 litre Engine oil in this 10000 kilometres intervall.

 

[JAG]

I would ask the lab why the oxidation measurements are so low. They don’t align with what any other lab’s UOAs/VOAs have shown, even for motor oils completely lacking esters. That is an important metric for determine if the oil has been run too long, so it’s a shame to not have trustworthy values for it. Even if they are subtracting the VOA oxidation value, values of 1 to 3 are hard to believe.

 

[CivicFK2TypeR]

On the basis of the tbn, it is also possible to recognise how long combustion residues can still be neutralised before oxidation or the like occurs. In addition, each laboratory, especially from Germany to America, sometimes measures differently. The fact that this oil is far from the end in this analysis is certainly more than clearly recognisable.

I have always analysed this oil, at the beginning the new life, then the fs and now the fs with the api sp specification. The oxidation values were almost always identical, so no need to worry

Here is the fresh oil reference of the mobil 1 fs 0W40 with api sp specification. Here it is also 1, i.e. the oil still has no oxidation even after 10000 kilometres (partly also 20000 kilometres as seen in my other analyses)

 

[himemsys]

Here is the fresh oil reference of the mobil 1 fs 0W40 with api sp specification. Here it is also 1, i.e. the oil still has no oxidation even after 10000 kilometres (partly also 20000 kilometres as seen in my other analyses)

It doesn't seem right. Another analysis showed oxidation at 7 for this oil in virgin form. Oxidation does climb with use, so after over 6000 miles it would have to be much higher than 1. It seems like they are not testing this, and just reporting a "1".

Based on the ending BN, you could've gone MUCH farther on this oil.

 

[SimpleSyrup]

At the time of the oil change, what did the maintenance minder show you for oil life remaining?

 

[CivicFK2TypeR]

My car does not have such a display. I have been changing the oil every 20000 kilometres at my Honda dealer since I bought the vehicle new in 2008.

 

[CivicFK2TypeR]

It doesn't seem right. Another analysis showed oxidation at 7 for this oil in virgin form. Oxidation does climb with use, so after over 6000 miles it would have to be much higher than 1. It seems like they are not testing this, and just reporting a "1".

Based on the ending BN, you could've gone MUCH farther on this oil.

Laboratories in Germany in Europe probably test differently than in America, for example. But that the value only remains at 1 is not true, my other 20 oil analyses have clearly shown that. If you use a car for which it was built, then such intervals are not a problem. Avoid short distances, for example.

 

[SimpleSyrup]

My car does not have such a display. I have been changing the oil every 20000 kilometres at my Honda dealer since I bought the vehicle new in 2008.

That's really interesting. I have basically the same car. I didn't realize it was not included in the EU vehicles. On my Civic, same engine, the oil change minder typically triggers somewhere between 6500 and 7500 miles. But 20,000k is pushing almost 13,000 miles.

I wonder if the North American market oils are not made as well or at least that was the belief of Honda based in their testing.

The original spec on my car was to use 5W-20. I suppose assuming worst case scenario of synthetic blend 5W 20, maybe 7500 mi is the longest that was acceptable at the time.

For your Honda, what does Honda recommend for the oil filter change interval? Mine says to do it every other oil change.

 

[CivicFK2TypeR]

The problem is also the fuel, with us everything is available from 95 octane. In America, low saps oils (API SN) are recommended, which have a lower basic reserve or Cleaning additives included. I drive fullsaps. But our instructions also say that you should change the oil after 10000 kilometres if you drive less than 16 kilometres more often. But that almost never happens to me.

We also have some "very clever" people here in Germany who think that the oil is worn out after 4000 kilometres. It's not even on the racetrack.

I drive with an oil interval in about 370 operating hours and that from the beginning, without changing earlier than every 20000 kilometres. The engine has a quasi compression on all four cylinders, as they are with a new r18a2. I think that says a lot about the fact that you can exaggerate with oil.

 

[himemsys]

Laboratories in Germany in Europe probably test differently than in America, for example. But that the value only remains at 1 is not true, my other 20 oil analyses have clearly shown that. If you use a car for which it was built, then such intervals are not a problem. Avoid short distances, for example.

So you feel confident that after 10k kilometers, there was zero oxidation on this oil?

 

[CivicFK2TypeR]

So you feel confident that after 10k kilometers, there was zero oxidation on this oil?

I confronted the laboratory again. They apologised and corrected the lab report. Thank you for your help.

 

[CivicFK2TypeR]

Also when asked if I should change the oil now, I was advised not to change at these excellent values, it would only be a waste of resources. So everything remains as usual, change every 20000 kilometres and the engine is happy

I will soon start an attempt with a UOA every 1000 kilometres to prove that oils are not at the end after a few 1000 kilometres With my business partner. I will extend the interval to 30000 kilometres, and always take a sample. The elements will not rise excessively. Furthermore, I plan a uoa of the 24h race from the Nürburgring. Since I don't want the German oil club to benefit from it, I will only send the reports by pn on request and verification

 

[CivicFK2TypeR]

Ok, to all interested parties who have written to me via pn, I will send the results as soon as I have everything. Greetings