Havoline synthetic?

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ive been looking at Havoline synthetic for a whil now, and ive seen a full synthetic they make, that also has seal condioners in it. was wondering if anyone knows if this product is really good for a synthetic? even compared to Mobil 1 and amsoil?

 

[burnbomber]

It was heavily discounted awhile back at both Big Lots and Autozone, and I got tons of quart bottles at $2 apiece. At that price, it's a really, really good oil.

 

[Ray H]

Havoline Full Synthetic contains primarily Group III base oils. Group IIIs, like PAOs, are devoid of the aromatics (solvent-like compounds) that maintain seal condition in Group I and, to a much lesser degree in Group II, conventional motor oils. (Aromatics have ONE desirable attribute - maintaining mild seal swelling and pliability. Other than that, aromatics bring nothing remotely desirable to the table beause they're inherently unstable under heat and are subject to forming oxidation products - precursors to varnish and eventual sludge.) Consequently the synthetic base oils need seal conditioners to avoid oil leakage. Most often the seal conditioners used are select esters - generally carefully chosen to further enhance the finished oil's lubricity as well as providing controlled seal swelling and pliability characteristics.

 

[wavinwayne]

I've used Havoline synthetic 5w30 in my wife's '97 Expedition. It was in the Expy for 3k miles, from late spring until about a month ago. I have no complaints about this oil.

 

[Mr Magoo]

WavinWayne,

Did you do a used oil analysis of the Havoline Syn ?

 

[TallPaul]

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Originally posted by Ray H:
Havoline Full Synthetic contains primarily Group III base oils. Group IIIs, like PAOs, are devoid of the aromatics (solvent-like compounds) that maintain seal condition in Group I and, to a much lesser degree in Group II, conventional motor oils. (Aromatics have ONE desirable attribute - maintaining mild seal swelling and pliability. Other than that, aromatics bring nothing remotely desirable to the table beause they're inherently unstable under heat and are subject to forming oxidation products - precursors to varnish and eventual sludge.) Consequently the synthetic base oils need seal conditioners to avoid oil leakage. Most often the seal conditioners used are select esters - generally carefully chosen to further enhance the finished oil's lubricity as well as providing controlled seal swelling and pliability characteristics.

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In other words, it's good stuff?

 

[wavinwayne]

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Originally posted by Mr Magoo:
WavinWayne,

Did you do a used oil analysis of the Havoline Syn ?

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Negative, tower.