Just looking at the msds's of SI-1 and Chevron I can see the PEA. The Regane has completely different chemicals. Now I'm no chemical engineer and really probably don't know what I'm looking at, but is the Regane still mainly PEA? I've also noticed it's cheaper than the others and read where it seem most have better luck with the other 2.
Gumout Regane still have PEA?
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Probably, but don't expect any answers from Shell on the matter:
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/1488936/
PEA, used as an engine cleaner, is a real big trade secret now.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/1488936/
PEA, used as an engine cleaner, is a real big trade secret now.
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A little shady. I think I will use either SI-1 or Techron.
Just used the 2x smaller bottle today. still have it. let you know soon.
Hmmm thats not cool..
nope not listed.
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A little shady. I think I will use either SI-1 or Techron.
Best statement on the board. It only makes sense to use a product that actually has the PEA listed.
A little shady. I think I will use either SI-1 or Techron.
Best statement on the board. It only makes sense to use a product that actually has the PEA listed.
It still lists amines on the label, FWIW.
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Btw- Techron lists no PEA in their MSDS
COMPONENTS
CAS NUMBER
AMOUNT
Distillates, hydrotreated light
64742-47-8
< 55 %weight
01154100-5179P
Trade secret
< 50 %weight
Stoddard solvent
8052-41-3
< 35 %weight
Solvent naphtha (petroleum), light aromatic
64742-95-6
< 10 %weight
Benzene, 1,2,4-trimethyl-
95-63-6
1 - 5 %weight
Xylene
1330-20-7
0.1 - 0.5 %weight
Cumene
98-82-8
0.1 - 0.5 %weight
Yet advertises it on the Techron paqe.
https://cglapps.chevron.com/msdspds/MSDSDetailPage.aspx?docDataId=283264
http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/additives/tcp.aspx
That is, just because it's not listed, doesn't mean that it's not there.
COMPONENTS
CAS NUMBER
AMOUNT
Distillates, hydrotreated light
64742-47-8
< 55 %weight
01154100-5179P
Trade secret
< 50 %weight
Stoddard solvent
8052-41-3
< 35 %weight
Solvent naphtha (petroleum), light aromatic
64742-95-6
< 10 %weight
Benzene, 1,2,4-trimethyl-
95-63-6
1 - 5 %weight
Xylene
1330-20-7
0.1 - 0.5 %weight
Cumene
98-82-8
0.1 - 0.5 %weight
Yet advertises it on the Techron paqe.
https://cglapps.chevron.com/msdspds/MSDSDetailPage.aspx?docDataId=283264
http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/additives/tcp.aspx
That is, just because it's not listed, doesn't mean that it's not there.
Thats why I always buy Techron, you gotta figure the company that developed PEA and promotes it as the best, is smart enough to also put it in the product.
Look at the Canadian Techron MSDS which reveals the Trade Secret is the PEA.
https://cglapps.chevron.com/msdspds/MSDSDetailPage.aspx?docDataId=283266
COMPONENTS
CAS NUMBER
AMOUNT
Distillates, hydrotreated light
64742-47-8
< 55 %weight
Polyether amine
Trade secret
< 50 %weight
Stoddard solvent
8052-41-3
< 35 %weight
Solvent naphtha (petroleum), light aromatic
64742-95-6
< 10 %weight
Benzene, 1,2,4-trimethyl-
95-63-6
1 - 5 %weight
Xylene
1330-20-7
0.1 - 0.5 %weight
Cumene
98-82-8
0.1 - 0.5 %weight
https://cglapps.chevron.com/msdspds/MSDSDetailPage.aspx?docDataId=283266
COMPONENTS
CAS NUMBER
AMOUNT
Distillates, hydrotreated light
64742-47-8
< 55 %weight
Polyether amine
Trade secret
< 50 %weight
Stoddard solvent
8052-41-3
< 35 %weight
Solvent naphtha (petroleum), light aromatic
64742-95-6
< 10 %weight
Benzene, 1,2,4-trimethyl-
95-63-6
1 - 5 %weight
Xylene
1330-20-7
0.1 - 0.5 %weight
Cumene
98-82-8
0.1 - 0.5 %weight
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I really don't understand WHY Gumout would NOT want to make it public knowledge about their use of PEA as it is the most effective gasoline detergent. Period! Could it be that Chevron has legally required Shell NOT to be able to list the ingredient because of a patent or something.
I'll be calling Shell and asking them about whether or not PEA is in their product. If they won't answer yes, I won't be buying it any longer.
I'll be calling Shell and asking them about whether or not PEA is in their product. If they won't answer yes, I won't be buying it any longer.
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I bought the high mileage version of Gumout Regane fuel system cleaner this past weekend, I wonder if it has a higher amount of PEA in it than the regular version? I hope so, it was $2 more! ($14.99 vs $12.99 up here)
Originally Posted By: Patman
I bought the high mileage version of Gumout Regane fuel system cleaner this past weekend, I wonder if it has a higher amount of PEA in it than the regular version? I hope so, it was $2 more! ($14.99 vs $12.99 up here)
Wow it's expensive in Canada. Can you get Red Line SI-1 up there for a similar price?
I bought the high mileage version of Gumout Regane fuel system cleaner this past weekend, I wonder if it has a higher amount of PEA in it than the regular version? I hope so, it was $2 more! ($14.99 vs $12.99 up here)
Wow it's expensive in Canada. Can you get Red Line SI-1 up there for a similar price?
Patman
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Originally Posted By: Art_Vandelay
Wow it's expensive in Canada. Can you get Red Line SI-1 up there for a similar price?
I bought two bottles of Redline Si-1 a few weeks ago for $6 each, although the regular price here is $10.99.
After running two bottles of Redline through my tank I'm still getting pinging, so I figured I'd try the Gumout stuff to see if it'll clean out the combustion chamber a little more.
Wow it's expensive in Canada. Can you get Red Line SI-1 up there for a similar price?
I bought two bottles of Redline Si-1 a few weeks ago for $6 each, although the regular price here is $10.99.
After running two bottles of Redline through my tank I'm still getting pinging, so I figured I'd try the Gumout stuff to see if it'll clean out the combustion chamber a little more.
Originally Posted By: Patman
Originally Posted By: Art_Vandelay
Wow it's expensive in Canada. Can you get Red Line SI-1 up there for a similar price?
I bought two bottles of Redline Si-1 a few weeks ago for $6 each, although the regular price here is $10.99.
After running two bottles of Redline through my tank I'm still getting pinging, so I figured I'd try the Gumout stuff to see if it'll clean out the combustion chamber a little more.
Well that was a good deal on the Redline so I guess it balances out. Good luck with the pinging. Hopefully this will work for you.
Originally Posted By: Art_Vandelay
Wow it's expensive in Canada. Can you get Red Line SI-1 up there for a similar price?
I bought two bottles of Redline Si-1 a few weeks ago for $6 each, although the regular price here is $10.99.
After running two bottles of Redline through my tank I'm still getting pinging, so I figured I'd try the Gumout stuff to see if it'll clean out the combustion chamber a little more.
Well that was a good deal on the Redline so I guess it balances out. Good luck with the pinging. Hopefully this will work for you.
Patman
Staff member
Originally Posted By: Art_Vandelay
Well that was a good deal on the Redline so I guess it balances out. Good luck with the pinging. Hopefully this will work for you.
If it doesn't work I'll just go back to using 94 octane. With the money I have spent on additives so far it could've paid for the extra cost of 94 vs 91 for a few months!
Well that was a good deal on the Redline so I guess it balances out. Good luck with the pinging. Hopefully this will work for you.
If it doesn't work I'll just go back to using 94 octane. With the money I have spent on additives so far it could've paid for the extra cost of 94 vs 91 for a few months!
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