Grok cannot detect AI content - defends Chinese propaganda

[Jim Rogers]

"The root cause is often identified as inadequate staffing, fatigue, or poor technology/processes, failures attributed to the system and administration, not a doctor's lack of knowledge."

No doubt. When I cite the high levels of medical error due to incompetence, I'm not implying that it's due to a lack of education. Indeed, I believe the quality of medical education is fairly decent.

Same with pilots, auto mechanics, and pretty much everyone else.

It is true that fatigue and system errors are often the source of human error, and I was summing all those understandable failure vectors under the umbrella of "the human condition," and I will repeat that, as human beings, we are all susceptible to that (me included).

But that's exactly where AI can shine. Rather than depending on hierarchies of various levels of siloed knowledge, where people at different levels do not have complete understanding of the other levels (the most common cause of systemic failure), AI will have perfect knowledge, understanding, and memory of all levels.

This is key to eliminating the systemic errors you (correctly) cite.

So, understand that I am not impugning healthcare staff, doctors, or administrators. I'm not calling them uneducated or implying they have mal intent.

I'm just saying they are all human, all make human errors (many of which are dumb and avoidable), and I believe AI will do better because, not being human, it won't carry all the human baggage.

Will there be errors due to "AI baggage" that's analogous to "human baggage?" It's possible! Will be very interesting to see if there is some error vector that AI is intrinsically prone to in a way that parallels human error vectors.

If so, then perhaps there will be a legitimate need for human input in the (distant future) AI world. I think this is the point you are making, and that's why I agree that there could be a chance that you are right, and I will be wrong.

What I mean is someone has to turn the robot on and administer the machine. Currently it's special techs and doctors who are trained on it. I guess you are referring to a future where it's just robots and scanners and HAL doing all the work? Even on Star Trek you have Dr. Crusher scanning your head and telling Picard what's wrong.

Yes, exactly. I'm talking about the more distant future where self-aware meta-AI/robotics are able to work fully independent of any human interaction.

Unfortunately, I know nothing about Star Trek. Haven't owned a TV or watched a movie in decades!

While I think that will happen eventually, but a little too soon to worry about it or anticipate it just yet, at least for me.

I agree with you here. As I said elsewhere, there are few with as maximalist of an outlook as I have about AI, but among the maximalists, there are few that are as pessimistic about AI timelines as I am.

My guess is that the AI/robot future I envision will not be happening until the mid 2030s at the earliest but will almost certainly be in place by the 2050s.

So, I don't think this revolution is right around the corner but given that my calculated life expectancy reaches into the early 2050s, I think it will be happening in my lifetime.

This is what Elon is talking about all the time. While his robots and those in factories are pretty amazing, I thinks it's going to be a while before we can see this in action. Another reason to invest in Tesla I guess?

Correct. The fat/long tail problem is fully in effect which will likely mean that the development of meta-AI/robotics will take longer than expected.

I'm not an Elon fan, and while I don't rule out the possibility of Tesla winning the AI/robotics game, I also don't think it's a given that they will win. So, I don't rule out the possibility that Tesla will be a big player (perhaps even the biggest), but I'm also not really a Tesla bull as I think the chances are probably greater that they will lose.

Just speculation on my part!

I see your point. Back to Star Trek again. Communism actually works there because there is no scarcity really. Free energy, food replicators, holodecks. Yeah, people can be pretty lazy in the future.

Exactly! In a world dependent on human labor, communism simply does not work, socialism is not optimal, and I've been against those sorts of economic policies all my life.

But in a world where autonomous AI robots can do all human work at a higher skill/efficiency level?

I've seen some pretty compelling arguments that, suddenly, the standard economic theory will be turned on its head, and the "communist paradise" could actually be a reality.

If true, why would anyone fight that?

It's like in that one TNG episode where the frozen modern-day (1980s) time-capsule people are revived. The one wealthy man says something along the lines of, "If there's no money, then what's the challenge!?" IIRC Picard says, "to improve oneself!" and hence, how Jean Luc became the Captain of the Enterprise as he had the ambition to do so.

Yes, without having to work, humans can focus on improving themselves in the areas and at the rate they find satisfying. A fantastic world if that actually happens!

Elon says how compute and energy will be the money of the future. This reality is still far away I'd say but would be nice. IDK how I'd cope though. All my skills would be irrelevant. My investments would be worthless.

Agree, and I said basically that earlier-- that my gut instinct is to fight AI because it will make all the investments I've made in myself moot. That causes me to have a negative knee-jerk reaction, but I try to fight it by reminding myself that the benefits of the new world will far outweigh the costs to my pride.

Elon claims it would be a society of creativity. Most likely non stop dopamine hits wired into our brains via some super neural Tik Tok? IDK, sounds like your department.

Very well could be. Who knows? Nothing like this has ever been experienced. Will be an unbelievable journey to see where this all goes!

Likewise, you really know your stuff.

I just hope you're not a time traveller!

Nope, not a time traveler, just another dufus spewing opinion on a message board. Could be prescient, could be utterly wrong.

Just making the positive case for AI as I see it and have enjoyed getting your point of view on it!