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I know. HAL9000 is not here either but his sons may be soon....
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That's true. When the answer matters, you have to use multiple and ideally original sources.
And in the science world original sources sometimes don't agree. A well done study provides the correct answer (or often reports that the correct answer lies between x and y), 19 times out of 20, given that particular study design (which will often have one or more flaws). So truth can be an evasive thing.
I suggest truth is always an evasive thing, at least over time. Everything changes. Better science refutes older science for many reasons: flawed studies, more and/or better data, new methodologies. I'm sure there's more.
Being wrong is not a bad thing; it is the path to learning. As long as we are willing to be objective. Know it alls have a tough road to hoe, IMO.
In Canada they'd just happily refer one to M.A.I.D. (w ww.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/health-services-benefits/medical-assistance-dying.html). It already happened a few times when low income people unable to support themselves, veterans dealing with PTSD etc were sent there.
No, I don't think it will. As I stated, it will lead to increased errors and no one will actually be held accountable.
There will be more and better ways to condense and extract data, true. This is always one of the best things about computers. Thinking some kind of semi-sentient array of processors can decide life or death, well that is precisely wrong. That is a hard truth, we violate that truth and we will all pay.
Are you suggesting Doctors never make mistakes? Ot that more information, new information, new studies are not good?
AI alone has the ability to consume incredible amounts of data, process it and extract complex associations from complex data.
No human or group of humans can do that.
But don't take my word for this, here's an article from the NIH (National Institure for Health). There is much more out there, for those who may be interested.
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AI bases "decisions" on all data. GIGO.
How does AI know truth, correctness and best for a patient? Oh I know, data.............
Doctors make mistakes all the time and for the most part are held accountable, except when it's groups of Dr's like the AHA. Sort of get hidden the weeds and we all pay. AI will be worse.
I will take the last part back. AI might actually be better than the AHA. Maybe if free from pharma influence
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May I ask what is it you teach? I presume (based on the expertise you show in your posts) that whatever it is, it is mathematical in nature.
If that presumption is correct, do you ban student use of handheld calculators or computer algebra systems as well?
Same as the Doctor; data.
It’s an incredible tool if used correctly. Unfortunately misused
A good physician is pretty good. Not perfect but pretty good. A good physician who uses AI as a supplement will be even better.
A physician who has come to rely on AI will soon lose their edge. Many people (most people) are at least a bit lazy. And it's just easier to let someone or something do your thinking for you. And that's my worry about AI in medicine.
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Who is going to sent that kid?
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No. Security studies.
Raw data can be unorganized facts or just verbiage. AI seeks to qualify, clean and prepare data into information. It also seeks to improve itself, along with human intervention via algorithms, testing, etc. AI processes include recursive self-improvement and evolving algorithms.
Information is based on data, decisions stem from that information. The good Doctor's education came from data. He/she adds experience, which is more data. The experience is often codified in medical journals adding to avaialble data.
Doctors often suggest getting a 2nd opinion, which is also bsed on another Doctor's data.
As @Pablo points out, GIGO is real and can produce flawed inaccurage AI results. Data cleaning, validation, etc are critical components. Of course this is hardly limited to AI; bad data is everywhere and we make flawed deciaions on it.
There is no perfect and the only constant is change. Regardless, denying progress is not a solution.
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AI anything should be banned on BITOG.
PLEASE ban this AI crap.
AI crap is for Reddit, not BITOG.
Please ban this AI trash.
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I see.
You say that a student wondering why they needed to learn to write given the existence of AI was the worst night of your professional life.
But I'm curious-- would you be willing to share what your specific response was to that student?
It is the flaw of any heresy and people believing the major opinion is right. That's fundamentally what AI is, statistic instead of deterministic.
You can't prevent people doing that what makes you think you can prevent the current AI doing it?
Human follows guideline after a committee decide what is the best compromise a decision maker can do and set boundary for the rule. Won't solve all problems but that's what? A starting point?
AI will have to do the same, you can't just let AI do everything like you can't let a 15 year old do everything after he finish reading 200 books. I wouldn't let a 15 year old do my surgery unless there are procedure he or she must follow like a real surgeon. Human has to pass exams and do residency, AI will eventually do the same.