GM unveils new Corvette EV

Torrid said:
My commute in my Model Y Performance is 80 miles round trip so just half that. Not stopping at a gas station anymore is a game changer. I don't think I could go back to that. Not to mention when warming up the car and putting my stuff in the hatch I no longer have to smell rich exhaust fumes in the winter. I hated that so much. I love all cars, but living with a gas car for a daily is just a terrible experience.
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When I do wine tours for my company I use the Kia EV9 and I love being able to sit in the vehicle for an hour with the AC cranked up and the battery only goes down by maybe 2% and I don’t feel guilty like I would if I was idling a gas engine that long (although I wouldn’t do that, I would shut it off and get out of it) There are a lot of things about EVs that I really like and someday I’ll have one (right now living in a condo with no charging access is a big hindrance)
 
Patman said:
When I do wine tours for my company I use the Kia EV9 and I love being able to sit in the vehicle for an hour with the AC cranked up and the battery only goes down by maybe 2% and I don’t feel guilty like I would if I was idling a gas engine that long (although I wouldn’t do that, I would shut it off and get out of it) There are a lot of things about EVs that I really like and someday I’ll have one (right now living in a condo with no charging access is a big hindrance)
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I've always felt that way idling a gas car. I hated the stop/start on my GTI, but I'd enable it when I knew I'd stop for a bit with the windows down. That's bothered me from the second I started driving 25 years ago. Either it's being a cheapskate or just having mechanical sympathy, but it triggered something in my brain. I'm just much happier in an EV for these occasions.
 
Torrid said:
I've always felt that way idling a gas car. I hated the stop/start on my GTI, but I'd enable it when I knew I'd stop for a bit with the windows down. That's bothered me from the second I started driving 25 years ago. Either it's being a cheapskate or just having mechanical sympathy, but it triggered something in my brain. I'm just much happier in an EV for these occasions.
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Another great use for an EV would be for short trips around town or bumper to bumper congested city traffic. I cringe at what that type of operation does to an ICE powered vehicle but it’s perfect for an EV
 
Patman said:
Another great use for an EV would be for short trips around town or bumper to bumper congested city traffic. I cringe at what that type of operation does to an ICE powered vehicle but it’s perfect for an EV
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We had a lot of mechanical problems with a 2014 Ford Edge Sport we bought in 2017 getting constant 2 mile trips that my wife drove. It was really bad on gas because of it. The oil always reeked of gasoline. I'd change the oil once a year at about 3,000 miles. It almost never got to operating temperature. It's the reason why we bought our first EV. Now we both drive EVs and drive more than we ever had because the miles are so cheap. My wife even goes out of her way to help deliver animals with the animal rescue she volunteers with to help make adoptions easier. Most of these trips cost us $2-$3 and it's for a good cause anyway. It's why we sold the Model 3 and I bought her the new Model Y for the space for kennels. It's been the best experience for any vehicle we've owned.
 
alarmguy said:
It would be cool for everyone to take the actual electric bill payment and divide it by the kWh used. It is the ONLY way for us on a national, even state and city level to know the exact electric cost. There are all kinds of charges and taxes and excess costs added onto the bill.
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I have come to the conclusion the majority of drivers can not calculate "MPG", do not know what the words making up MPG really mean, do not know how to collect the data to calculate, only that it has something to do with how much gasoline their vehicle uses and there is a gauge on the dash purporting to display MPG.

Even the intellectually superior EV driver has problems distinguishing between kW and kWh.
 
GrumpyCat said:
I have come to the conclusion the majority of drivers can not calculate "MPG", do not know what the words making up MPG really mean, do not know how to collect the data to calculate, only that it has something to do with how much gasoline their vehicle uses and there is a gauge on the dash purporting to display MPG.

Even the intellectually superior EV driver has problems distinguishing between kW and kWh.
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I can tell you my power bill with two EVs is still less than my gas bill for two cars when we had them. Yes, my power bill went up, but my total power bill is less than my total gas bill. I literally got rid of a bill in the process equivalently.

I've tracked efficiency for 25 years of driving. I've been obsessed with it. I know that's not normal for most drivers. I don't know why beyond the amount I drive I've always found efficiency interesting. I've calculated every tank of fuel I've ever pumped since I started driving.
 
GrumpyCat said:
Even the intellectually superior EV driver has problems distinguishing between kW and kWh.
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All I know is it costs me very little to operate our wonderful EV. I don't even think about electricity costs because I've paid so little since early 2018 when we installed solar.

There's zero reason to think about electricity; I dealt with that issue.
 
Our cost per kWh in the Atlanta suburbs (Cobb County) is 7.5 cents per kWh.

The most economical EVs I have owned (Bolt, Leaf and Spark) can get five miles per kWh. Tesla's are closer to four while the Spark can get nearly six.

So it's 1.5 cents per mile for us which is great because we do a lot of local driving.

HoweverCobb EMC charges us a $31 monthly maintenance fee. To even get it that low I have to agree to use minimal electricity during 'Peak Energy Days'. This avoids an even higher $39 monthly fee for regular customers.

We could drive our EV costs even lower than 1.5 cents a mile with a free two hour charger that's about five miles. But I prefer to do level one charging during the cooler hours at home to maximize the longevity of the battery.

To each their own...
 
macarose said:
Our cost per kWh in the Atlanta suburbs (Cobb County) is 7.5 cents per kWh.

The most economical EVs I have owned (Bolt, Leaf and Spark) can get five miles per kWh. Tesla's are closer to four while the Spark can get nearly six.

So it's 1.5 cents per mile for us which is great because we do a lot of local driving.

HoweverCobb EMC charges us a $31 monthly maintenance fee. To even get it that low I have to agree to use minimal electricity during 'Peak Energy Days'. This avoids an even higher $39 monthly fee for regular customers.

We could drive our EV costs even lower than 1.5 cents a mile with a free two hour charger that's about five miles. But I prefer to do level one charging during the cooler hours at home to maximize the longevity of the battery.

To each their own...
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Cost per kWh is the total actual payment to the utility company divided by the kWh used. It's the only way to compare with others. Either way its sounds like a good deal, just cant compare with others.
 
macarose said:
We could drive our EV costs even lower than 1.5 cents a mile with a free two hour charger that's about five miles. But I prefer to do level one charging during the cooler hours at home to maximize the longevity of the battery.
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Level 1 charging won't do anything to extend the life of the battery. Even L3 has a negligible impact on battery longevity. It's heat that has always been the problem. That problem has been resolved with active cooling. The battery isn't going to heat up much charging on L2. Chevy Bolts are showing less than 10% degradation at 100,000 miles. At that rate, we're upgrading vehicles before the battery is done. I usually trade out cars between 150,000 and 200,000 miles. In my experience, 150,000 miles is where things start breaking.
 
jghall00 said:
Level 1 charging won't do anything to extend the life of the battery. Even L3 has a negligible impact on battery longevity. It's heat that has always been the problem. That problem has been resolved with active cooling. The battery isn't going to heat up much charging on L2. Chevy Bolts are showing less than 10% degradation at 100,000 miles. At that rate, we're upgrading vehicles before the battery is done. I usually trade out cars between 150,000 and 200,000 miles. In my experience, 150,000 miles is where things start breaking.
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We have bought many older vehicles such as the Nissan Leaf and the Mitsubishi i-MiEV that don't have thermally cooled systems. That's why I err on the side of caution with Level 1 charging.
 
jghall00 said:
Level 1 charging won't do anything to extend the life of the battery. Even L3 has a negligible impact on battery longevity. It's heat that has always been the problem. That problem has been resolved with active cooling. The battery isn't going to heat up much charging on L2. Chevy Bolts are showing less than 10% degradation at 100,000 miles. At that rate, we're upgrading vehicles before the battery is done. I usually trade out cars between 150,000 and 200,000 miles. In my experience, 150,000 miles is where things start breaking.
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What does resale value look like at that point?
 
JeffKeryk said:
All I know is it costs me very little to operate our wonderful EV. I don't even think about electricity costs because I've paid so little since early 2018 when we installed solar.

There's zero reason to think about electricity; I dealt with that issue.
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What about your amortization of the cost of your solar panels?
 
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