Never had this happen on a Motorcraft filter, glad I looked for it anyway. ( gasket stuck on engine)
Glad I checked!
- Thread starter Taildragger
- Start date
- Status
Yeah, I've only made that mistake once and cleaned up a big mess.
If you pay attention when you are taking off the filter, you can tell when this happens. Normally the filter should break free within a turn and spin freely all the way off.
However, if the gasket is stuck, there will be two or three stiff turns before it pops. This is the resistance of the gasket sliding in the filter. Also, you will not leak any oil until it pops out after the excessive number of turns.
Originally Posted By: tig1
Normally if you oil the gasket before installing the filter this doesn't happen.
Ive installed a lot of filters, and never noticed a difference. It still can occur.
However, if the gasket is stuck, there will be two or three stiff turns before it pops. This is the resistance of the gasket sliding in the filter. Also, you will not leak any oil until it pops out after the excessive number of turns.
Originally Posted By: tig1
Normally if you oil the gasket before installing the filter this doesn't happen.
Ive installed a lot of filters, and never noticed a difference. It still can occur.
Last edited:
Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
If you pay attention when you are taking off the filter, you can tell when this happens. Normally the filter should break free within a turn and spin freely all the way off.
However, if the gasket is stuck, there will be two or three stiff turns before it pops. This is the resistance of the gasket sliding in the filter. Also, you will not leak any oil until it pops out after the excessive number of turns.
Originally Posted By: tig1
Normally if you oil the gasket before installing the filter this doesn't happen.
Ive installed a lot of filters, and never noticed a difference. It still can occur.
Exactly! 5k miles, 5.4 F-150.
If you pay attention when you are taking off the filter, you can tell when this happens. Normally the filter should break free within a turn and spin freely all the way off.
However, if the gasket is stuck, there will be two or three stiff turns before it pops. This is the resistance of the gasket sliding in the filter. Also, you will not leak any oil until it pops out after the excessive number of turns.
Originally Posted By: tig1
Normally if you oil the gasket before installing the filter this doesn't happen.
Ive installed a lot of filters, and never noticed a difference. It still can occur.
Exactly! 5k miles, 5.4 F-150.
Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
If you pay attention when you are taking off the filter, you can tell when this happens. Normally the filter should break free within a turn and spin freely all the way off.
However, if the gasket is stuck, there will be two or three stiff turns before it pops. This is the resistance of the gasket sliding in the filter. Also, you will not leak any oil until it pops out after the excessive number of turns.
Originally Posted By: tig1
Normally if you oil the gasket before installing the filter this doesn't happen.
Ive installed a lot of filters, and never noticed a difference. It still can occur.
I said normally. However much more likely not to stick if you do lube the gasket before installing. I've been changing oil since 1965 and have never had one stick, yet anyway.
If you pay attention when you are taking off the filter, you can tell when this happens. Normally the filter should break free within a turn and spin freely all the way off.
However, if the gasket is stuck, there will be two or three stiff turns before it pops. This is the resistance of the gasket sliding in the filter. Also, you will not leak any oil until it pops out after the excessive number of turns.
Originally Posted By: tig1
Normally if you oil the gasket before installing the filter this doesn't happen.
Ive installed a lot of filters, and never noticed a difference. It still can occur.
I said normally. However much more likely not to stick if you do lube the gasket before installing. I've been changing oil since 1965 and have never had one stick, yet anyway.
All filters get a light coat of Dow Corning #7,, just say'in.
This happened to me for the first time ever a few weeks ago. The gasket was lubed before installation, and it wasn't over-tightened. I noticed it right away, but I also make it a point to always clean the mounting surface on the car which provides another opportunity to find a stuck gasket. This also ensures there's no dirt present that could prevent a good seal, especially when changing filter brands where the diameter or gasket design can be slightly different.
Glad you caught it and didn't make a mess. I have noticed that some filter designs, especially OE filters for imports, have different gasket designs and stronger gasket retention than common aftermarket or domestic OE designs.
Glad you caught it and didn't make a mess. I have noticed that some filter designs, especially OE filters for imports, have different gasket designs and stronger gasket retention than common aftermarket or domestic OE designs.
Triple_Se7en
$50 Site Donor 2024
Originally Posted By: jim302
This happened to me for the first time ever a few weeks ago. The gasket was lubed before installation, and it wasn't over-tightened. I noticed it right away, but I also make it a point to always clean the mounting surface on the car which provides another opportunity to find a stuck gasket. This also ensures there's no dirt present that could prevent a good seal, especially when changing filter brands where the diameter or gasket design can be slightly different.
Glad you caught it and didn't make a mess. I have noticed that some filter designs, especially OE filters for imports, have different gasket designs and stronger gasket retention than common aftermarket or domestic OE designs.
There's a difference between oiling that gasket and lubing it.
Go to Harbor Freight and buy a tube of Superlube. It's thin, light and your gasket-sticking days will end,... UNLESS that gasket is not properly glued to the filter to begin with..
This happened to me for the first time ever a few weeks ago. The gasket was lubed before installation, and it wasn't over-tightened. I noticed it right away, but I also make it a point to always clean the mounting surface on the car which provides another opportunity to find a stuck gasket. This also ensures there's no dirt present that could prevent a good seal, especially when changing filter brands where the diameter or gasket design can be slightly different.
Glad you caught it and didn't make a mess. I have noticed that some filter designs, especially OE filters for imports, have different gasket designs and stronger gasket retention than common aftermarket or domestic OE designs.
There's a difference between oiling that gasket and lubing it.
Go to Harbor Freight and buy a tube of Superlube. It's thin, light and your gasket-sticking days will end,... UNLESS that gasket is not properly glued to the filter to begin with..
Originally Posted By: Taildragger
All filters get a light coat of Dow Corning #7,, just say'in.
I've been stomping my tube of #7 described as a mold release for 30 yrs. It never dawned on me that the stuff was still made.
All filters get a light coat of Dow Corning #7,, just say'in.
I've been stomping my tube of #7 described as a mold release for 30 yrs. It never dawned on me that the stuff was still made.
Originally Posted By: andyd
Originally Posted By: Taildragger
All filters get a light coat of Dow Corning #7,, just say'in.
I've been stomping my tube of #7 described as a mold release for 30 yrs. It never dawned on me that the stuff was still made.
Oh yeah, can probably find it for less if you look a little harder. Buy #7 here.
Originally Posted By: Taildragger
All filters get a light coat of Dow Corning #7,, just say'in.
I've been stomping my tube of #7 described as a mold release for 30 yrs. It never dawned on me that the stuff was still made.
Oh yeah, can probably find it for less if you look a little harder. Buy #7 here.
Originally Posted By: Taildragger
All filters get a light coat of Dow Corning #7,, just say'in.
I don't understand why you would use that grease on the gasket. I have always read "do not use grease" on oil filter gaskets. I guess there is always someone who has to be different.
All filters get a light coat of Dow Corning #7,, just say'in.
I don't understand why you would use that grease on the gasket. I have always read "do not use grease" on oil filter gaskets. I guess there is always someone who has to be different.
Last edited:
Triple_Se7en
$50 Site Donor 2024
We should not be discussing heavier grease, like wheel bearing grease. Light grease is fine, as long as you wipe-down the mount area before installing the next filter.
Most people do wipe-downs anyways.... even with only oil remnants.
If you put light, thin Superlube thinly on that gasket, it will not stick upon removal, nor will the filter-itself be a bear to remove.
Most people do wipe-downs anyways.... even with only oil remnants.
If you put light, thin Superlube thinly on that gasket, it will not stick upon removal, nor will the filter-itself be a bear to remove.
Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
If you pay attention when you are taking off the filter, you can tell when this happens. Normally the filter should break free within a turn and spin freely all the way off.
However, if the gasket is stuck, there will be two or three stiff turns before it pops. This is the resistance of the gasket sliding in the filter. Also, you will not leak any oil until it pops out after the excessive number of turns.
Originally Posted By: tig1
Normally if you oil the gasket before installing the filter this doesn't happen.
Ive installed a lot of filters, and never noticed a difference. It still can occur.
I said normally. However much more likely not to stick if you do lube the gasket before installing. I've been changing oil since 1965 and have never had one stick, yet anyway.
You have me beat. I’ve been changing oil since the early 70’s and have yet to have this issue. I always lube my filter gaskets with clean oil.
Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
If you pay attention when you are taking off the filter, you can tell when this happens. Normally the filter should break free within a turn and spin freely all the way off.
However, if the gasket is stuck, there will be two or three stiff turns before it pops. This is the resistance of the gasket sliding in the filter. Also, you will not leak any oil until it pops out after the excessive number of turns.
Originally Posted By: tig1
Normally if you oil the gasket before installing the filter this doesn't happen.
Ive installed a lot of filters, and never noticed a difference. It still can occur.
I said normally. However much more likely not to stick if you do lube the gasket before installing. I've been changing oil since 1965 and have never had one stick, yet anyway.
You have me beat. I’ve been changing oil since the early 70’s and have yet to have this issue. I always lube my filter gaskets with clean oil.
OP I'm glad you caught this! Good stuff.
Generally, aren't we supposed to be wiping the filter mount (base) on the engine before installing the new filter? I'm pretty sure this will make sure you never leave a filter gasket on the engine.
I wipe the base with a rag every time, and wipe a bit of fresh oil on the filter gasket every time. Never had a problem with this in 30 years.
Generally, aren't we supposed to be wiping the filter mount (base) on the engine before installing the new filter? I'm pretty sure this will make sure you never leave a filter gasket on the engine.
I wipe the base with a rag every time, and wipe a bit of fresh oil on the filter gasket every time. Never had a problem with this in 30 years.
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
If you pay attention when you are taking off the filter, you can tell when this happens. Normally the filter should break free within a turn and spin freely all the way off.
However, if the gasket is stuck, there will be two or three stiff turns before it pops. This is the resistance of the gasket sliding in the filter. Also, you will not leak any oil until it pops out after the excessive number of turns.
Originally Posted By: tig1
Normally if you oil the gasket before installing the filter this doesn't happen.
Ive installed a lot of filters, and never noticed a difference. It still can occur.
I said normally. However much more likely not to stick if you do lube the gasket before installing. I've been changing oil since 1965 and have never had one stick, yet anyway.
You have me beat. I’ve been changing oil since the early 70’s and have yet to have this issue. I always lube my filter gaskets with clean oil.
Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
If you pay attention when you are taking off the filter, you can tell when this happens. Normally the filter should break free within a turn and spin freely all the way off.
However, if the gasket is stuck, there will be two or three stiff turns before it pops. This is the resistance of the gasket sliding in the filter. Also, you will not leak any oil until it pops out after the excessive number of turns.
Originally Posted By: tig1
Normally if you oil the gasket before installing the filter this doesn't happen.
Ive installed a lot of filters, and never noticed a difference. It still can occur.
I said normally. However much more likely not to stick if you do lube the gasket before installing. I've been changing oil since 1965 and have never had one stick, yet anyway.
You have me beat. I’ve been changing oil since the early 70’s and have yet to have this issue. I always lube my filter gaskets with clean oil.
Last edited:
Ive had one have 2 gaskets out of the box.
Working at a small repair shop briefly and was doing an oil change (on a Sienna IIRC)
spun the old filter off...peeped it and saw the old gasket came off. Threw on a new one and filled up the oil and fired it up. Immediately dispensed oil all over the shop floor. Shut off the van, checked the filter...it had 2 gaskets! Bossman didnt believe me until he looked into the drain pan and saw the 1 and only filter in there, which still had a gasket.
Strange eh?
I cannot for the life of me remember the filter brand...but it was standard service type stuff
Working at a small repair shop briefly and was doing an oil change (on a Sienna IIRC)
spun the old filter off...peeped it and saw the old gasket came off. Threw on a new one and filled up the oil and fired it up. Immediately dispensed oil all over the shop floor. Shut off the van, checked the filter...it had 2 gaskets! Bossman didnt believe me until he looked into the drain pan and saw the 1 and only filter in there, which still had a gasket.
Strange eh?
I cannot for the life of me remember the filter brand...but it was standard service type stuff
- Status
