What are gasoline taxes used for?
I know it's supposed to be used to pay for road maintenance, but which roads are they?
I know it's supposed to be used to pay for road maintenance, but which roads are they?
Gasoline Taxes
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A question asked by many.....
Everything goes into consolidated revenue, then gets peed up the wall from there.
If gasoline taxes were collected and apportioned to roads, road safety, and transport infrastructure, Australia at least would have gold plated roads...
Same for any "sin tax" not going to the "sin" that it's justifiable on.
If gasoline taxes were collected and apportioned to roads, road safety, and transport infrastructure, Australia at least would have gold plated roads...
Same for any "sin tax" not going to the "sin" that it's justifiable on.
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
What are gasoline taxes used for?
I know it's supposed to be used to pay for road maintenance, but which roads are they?
There is federal tax money and state.
For the states long time ago it was put into its own bucket and used strictly for roads. Now its just dumped into the general bucket and the states fund what the want.
What are gasoline taxes used for?
I know it's supposed to be used to pay for road maintenance, but which roads are they?
There is federal tax money and state.
For the states long time ago it was put into its own bucket and used strictly for roads. Now its just dumped into the general bucket and the states fund what the want.
In California, we're currently paying 71.9 cents per gallon gasoline
tax, but the road conditions around here don't reflect that expense.
tax, but the road conditions around here don't reflect that expense.
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
In California, we're currently paying 71.9 cents per gallon gasoline
tax, but the road conditions around here don't reflect that expense.
New York is the same....high taxes and bad roads....but we do have a wonderful 'safety net' (that some people never climb out of).
'Foreign Aid' is another huge drain on our tax dollars.
Term Limits would solve a lot of these problems.
In California, we're currently paying 71.9 cents per gallon gasoline
tax, but the road conditions around here don't reflect that expense.
New York is the same....high taxes and bad roads....but we do have a wonderful 'safety net' (that some people never climb out of).
'Foreign Aid' is another huge drain on our tax dollars.
Term Limits would solve a lot of these problems.
Originally Posted By: Donald
For the states long time ago it was put into its own bucket and used strictly for roads. Now its just dumped into the general bucket and the states fund what the want.
Not in Iowa. 100% of the gasoline excise tax goes to the RUTF (Road Use Tax Fund) for state and county road maintenance. No money from the general fund is allowed to be put into the RUTF, and RUTF funds are not allowed to be used for general (or any other) fund projects.
For the states long time ago it was put into its own bucket and used strictly for roads. Now its just dumped into the general bucket and the states fund what the want.
Not in Iowa. 100% of the gasoline excise tax goes to the RUTF (Road Use Tax Fund) for state and county road maintenance. No money from the general fund is allowed to be put into the RUTF, and RUTF funds are not allowed to be used for general (or any other) fund projects.
Here is what happens in NM. We have some of the worst roads in the US.
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The gasoline tax is an excise tax imposed on distributors of gasoline for the privilege of receiving gasoline in New Mexico.
The gasoline tax rate is $0.17 per gallon and is reported monthly by the 25th day of the month following the month in which gasoline is received. Some deductions are allowed for this tax. The gasoline tax is reported on form RPD-41306, Combined Fuel Tax Report (page 1), (page 2), Schedules A, B, C, and instructions. Electronic filing is required for Gasoline Tax beginning December 1, 2010.
The revenues from the gasoline tax are distributed as follows:
State aviation fund - .26%
Motorboat fuel tax fund - .13%
Counties and municipalities - 10.38%
County government road fund - 5.76%
Road funds of municipalities - 5.76%
Municipal arterial program - 1.44%
General fund $33,333 per month
Qualified Tribes 40% of the net receipts attributable to the gasoline tax paid to the Department on 2,500,000 gallons of gasoline each month
State road fund - Residual
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The gasoline tax is an excise tax imposed on distributors of gasoline for the privilege of receiving gasoline in New Mexico.
The gasoline tax rate is $0.17 per gallon and is reported monthly by the 25th day of the month following the month in which gasoline is received. Some deductions are allowed for this tax. The gasoline tax is reported on form RPD-41306, Combined Fuel Tax Report (page 1), (page 2), Schedules A, B, C, and instructions. Electronic filing is required for Gasoline Tax beginning December 1, 2010.
The revenues from the gasoline tax are distributed as follows:
State aviation fund - .26%
Motorboat fuel tax fund - .13%
Counties and municipalities - 10.38%
County government road fund - 5.76%
Road funds of municipalities - 5.76%
Municipal arterial program - 1.44%
General fund $33,333 per month
Qualified Tribes 40% of the net receipts attributable to the gasoline tax paid to the Department on 2,500,000 gallons of gasoline each month
State road fund - Residual
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
In California, we're currently paying 71.9 cents per gallon gasoline
tax, but the road conditions around here don't reflect that expense.
Ever been to Montreal? Our roads are an embarrasment..and we are taxed like crazy..im curious to know not only the percentage thats distributed but what projects were funded with it and what that percentage represents in a dollar amount..i think they spread it out and make it confusing so we dont know where that tax money goes...
In California, we're currently paying 71.9 cents per gallon gasoline
tax, but the road conditions around here don't reflect that expense.
Ever been to Montreal? Our roads are an embarrasment..and we are taxed like crazy..im curious to know not only the percentage thats distributed but what projects were funded with it and what that percentage represents in a dollar amount..i think they spread it out and make it confusing so we dont know where that tax money goes...
Gasoline taxes?
Where does all the tax money go?
Where does all the tax money go?
JHZR2
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State taxes are used for roads, highways and bridges, and similar infrastructure, or the debt service on paying for such projects.
Federal seems to be dispersed willy-nilly.
That said, any big dollar project, Ive seen done anywhere in the country, always seems to have the bulk of the funds paid by the feds. That is, any US or Interstate highway. It seems like the co-pay is maybe 1-10%. Ive seen some big paving projects on the work signs and it appears that the state burden is in the 5-6 digits, when the fed burden is in the many millions.
Federal seems to be dispersed willy-nilly.
That said, any big dollar project, Ive seen done anywhere in the country, always seems to have the bulk of the funds paid by the feds. That is, any US or Interstate highway. It seems like the co-pay is maybe 1-10%. Ive seen some big paving projects on the work signs and it appears that the state burden is in the 5-6 digits, when the fed burden is in the many millions.
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
In California, we're currently paying 71.9 cents per gallon gasoline
tax, but the road conditions around here don't reflect that expense.
Our roads should be in fantastic shape with all the cars on the road and all the gas tax collected but as you know, they are not! California is broke beyond belief so I would bet they use the money for just about anything.
In California, we're currently paying 71.9 cents per gallon gasoline
tax, but the road conditions around here don't reflect that expense.
Our roads should be in fantastic shape with all the cars on the road and all the gas tax collected but as you know, they are not! California is broke beyond belief so I would bet they use the money for just about anything.
If you really want to know, you can look up this sort of data. It is probably written into the laws, and/or the budgets are available as a matter of public record. I know that the Illinois tollway system, for example, publishes its yearly budget on their website.
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Everything goes into consolidated revenue, then gets peed up the wall from there.
If gasoline taxes were collected and apportioned to roads, road safety, and transport infrastructure, Australia at least would have gold plated roads...
Same for any "sin tax" not going to the "sin" that it's justifiable on.
That's right...the dreaded "General Fund". Created by governments around the world since they were unable to keep their costs down in some areas and decided to steal from others. That's right I said "steal".
Cases in point:*
1) In the 60s, the US Congress used funds from Social Security to help pay for the Vietnam War. They paid the money back, in the 90s, but without interest, leading to the Social Security crisis of today.
2) In the 80s, the FAA was saving up the money to revamp the entire Air Traffic Control system all at once. This would have included radar, radios, and other equipment used daily. The FAA estimated that this would save 50% of the cost of doing the replacements piecemeal. The US Congress decided that the FAA was overfunded, took the money and spent it elsewhere, and it ended up costing the FAA double to replace the 50s technology.
*yes these are generalized
Sorry, this one plucked a nerve; apologies for venturing onto the line of politics.
Everything goes into consolidated revenue, then gets peed up the wall from there.
If gasoline taxes were collected and apportioned to roads, road safety, and transport infrastructure, Australia at least would have gold plated roads...
Same for any "sin tax" not going to the "sin" that it's justifiable on.
That's right...the dreaded "General Fund". Created by governments around the world since they were unable to keep their costs down in some areas and decided to steal from others. That's right I said "steal".
Cases in point:*
1) In the 60s, the US Congress used funds from Social Security to help pay for the Vietnam War. They paid the money back, in the 90s, but without interest, leading to the Social Security crisis of today.
2) In the 80s, the FAA was saving up the money to revamp the entire Air Traffic Control system all at once. This would have included radar, radios, and other equipment used daily. The FAA estimated that this would save 50% of the cost of doing the replacements piecemeal. The US Congress decided that the FAA was overfunded, took the money and spent it elsewhere, and it ended up costing the FAA double to replace the 50s technology.
*yes these are generalized
Sorry, this one plucked a nerve; apologies for venturing onto the line of politics.
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Originally Posted By: SHOZ
Why don't they list the price of gasoline with and without the taxes? I understand it is some form of regulation prohibiting the breakdown on the price.
That's interesting. We have the percentage that is taxes listed on the pumps up here FWIW.
Why don't they list the price of gasoline with and without the taxes? I understand it is some form of regulation prohibiting the breakdown on the price.
That's interesting. We have the percentage that is taxes listed on the pumps up here FWIW.
Some stations in So Cal list the gasoline tax (fed and state), but leave out the sale tax which is a percentage of the whole sale price.
JHZR2
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Originally Posted By: SHOZ
Why don't they list the price of gasoline with and without the taxes? I understand it is some form of regulation prohibiting the breakdown on the price.
IIRC in PA (been a while bc NJ is so much cheaper) they do say that the price includes $0.xy in taxes.
Why don't they list the price of gasoline with and without the taxes? I understand it is some form of regulation prohibiting the breakdown on the price.
IIRC in PA (been a while bc NJ is so much cheaper) they do say that the price includes $0.xy in taxes.
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