Future Electric Vehicles Coming 2023-2028

[buster]

Not for everyone, but EVs are in the pipeline. Blazer looks nice.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/rankin...p9R5hDYVV3FCtLNvmTu0U7aUHDBo4w6-UFslptzLt-e_u

 

[Snagglefoot]

Reviving the Buick Electra name for their EV makes so much sense I can’t believe they thought of it.

 

[PimTac]

Reviving the Buick Electra name for their EV makes so much sense I can’t believe they thought of it.

That is a surprise. The estimated price is in the $50,000 range so one would really rather have a Buick even if it’s made in China.

As for the Blazer, the big selling point is that it goes fast. Yawn.

 

[b_b]

That is a surprise. The estimated price is in the $50,000 range so one would really rather have a Buick even if it’s made in China.

As for the Blazer, the big selling point is that it goes fast. Yawn.

its *quick. not necessarily fast. in California you see electric cars everywhere. I've realized why this is the case, super crowded and crazy high fuel prices. if i had to pay $6 a gallon i would be driving an electric car too.

 

[2heeldrive]

I wonder when the 'go fast' craze will morph into 'go far' with a drivetrain that is tuned for efficiency instead of power.

 

[y_p_w]

I wonder when the 'go fast' craze will morph into 'go far' with a drivetrain that is tuned for efficiency instead of power.

That's somewhat at cross purposes. The obvious way to go far is with a larger battery, which then adds weight. The highest efficiency might be two motors independently driving the same axle along with a small battery to save weight.

However, electric motors have high efficiency over a large range. Some of the really fast EVs are also pretty efficient.

 

[DirectRejection]

Ram w/500 mile range !
Buick Electra HAS to win this one.

 

[Torrid]

Ram w/500 mile range !
Buick Electra HAS to win this one.

I'll believe that Ram range when it actually happens. Everyone just locks onto these big numbers for attention and bragging rights. We'll have to see if it actually happens. That battery would have to be twice a Plaid to do that in a truck.

 

[E365]

I'll believe that Ram range when it actually happens. Everyone just locks onto these big numbers for attention and bragging rights. We'll have to see if it actually happens. That battery would have to be twice a Plaid to do that in a truck.

I think 500 miles is possible with the 229kWh battery they’re claiming. Hummer EV will do 381 miles (Est.) with 212kWh, terrible aero, 3 PM motors, heavy rock armor and 35” tires.

Silverado EV will likely do the 450miles EPA with its 212kWh battery. Kyle from Out of Spec Studios test drove it and suggested people might see 500 miles from the 212kWh Silverado EV if drive gently.

 

[PandaBear]

I wonder when the 'go fast' craze will morph into 'go far' with a drivetrain that is tuned for efficiency instead of power.

Going FAST doesn't really cost much in electric car, unlike gas engine having to put in more cylinders and stronger transmissions, electric car's motor doesn't need to get much bigger to be powerful for the same price (maybe another 50lb for better insulation to double the voltage? I don't know), and the power electronics also don't weight much even if you double them. The biggest weight gain is the weight of the battery pack which doesn't change much when you want to double the power and reduce the range.

What this means, is like these days we have gasoline cars starting at minimum 110 hp instead of 60 hp, because it doesn't help going to a smaller hp engine in cost, emission, or mpg, EV wouldn't need to go much slower anymore as torque in EV is cheap if not free.

The only reason I see going "slow" make sense is to reduce suspension weight and crash safety, savings in tire and cooling system, etc. Those might save money if you can make the car slower and reduce the performance there.

 

[2heeldrive]

Going FAST doesn't really cost much in electric car, unlike gas engine having to put in more cylinders and stronger transmissions, electric car's motor doesn't need to get much bigger to be powerful for the same price (maybe another 50lb for better insulation to double the voltage? I don't know), and the power electronics also don't weight much even if you double them. The biggest weight gain is the weight of the battery pack which doesn't change much when you want to double the power and reduce the range.

What this means, is like these days we have gasoline cars starting at minimum 110 hp instead of 60 hp, because it doesn't help going to a smaller hp engine in cost, emission, or mpg, EV wouldn't need to go much slower anymore as torque in EV is cheap if not free.

The only reason I see going "slow" make sense is to reduce suspension weight and crash safety, savings in tire and cooling system, etc. Those might save money if you can make the car slower and reduce the performance there.

I found this article pretty interesting. I'm not sure EV efficiency is on anyone's radar yet.

https://insideevs.com/news/534083/most-efficient-bev-us-20210918/

 

[y_p_w]

The only reason I see going "slow" make sense is to reduce suspension weight and crash safety, savings in tire and cooling system, etc. Those might save money if you can make the car slower and reduce the performance there.

That was the early days of modern EVs and hybrids. Like the GM EV1 and the first generation Honda Insight.

We could make a lot of motor vehicles efficient by undersizing the power plant, lightening the weight, and paring down the weight as much possible. But that's at cross purposes with safety and drivability.

 

[Torrid]

I think 500 miles is possible with the 229kWh battery they’re claiming. Hummer EV will do 381 miles (Est.) with 212kWh, terrible aero, 3 PM motors, heavy rock armor and 35” tires.

Silverado EV will likely do the 450miles EPA with its 212kWh battery. Kyle from Out of Spec Studios test drove it and suggested people might see 500 miles from the 212kWh Silverado EV if drive gently.

That's what I mean, it's more than twice a Plaid battery capacity. The battery alone will weigh 2,000 lbs.