Fusion Impressions

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This seems like a nice enough car in general. We now have 1800 miles on it and the ride is impressive and the handleing is more than adequate. The seats are less comfortable than my other car even though it is 13yrs old. Fuel mileage is 33+ so far, by my math not the computer, and the transmission shifts on a par with most standard transmissions although the ratios are not of my liking. I would have made low gear a little lower and 6th just a tad higher.

I'm not thrilled with the throttle by wire, very vague and absolutely no feel. If you take off and slow the rate of acceleration it will cut off abruptly and sometimes stall. When coasting down hill it appears to keep the throttle part way open, for some reason, thus requiring more braking than normal. I get the overall feeling that the computer seems to think it knows what I want, or what it wants, and for the most part it is correct,but is so very wrong some of the time.
The electronic power steering leaves me cold; it assists nicely but has no feel, just not my cup of tea.
Now I compare this with my 99 Acura CL with 5speed with 82K miles.
If you need transport for four people, not all bad.

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I'm pretty sure all new cars keep the throttle part way open.
my subaru MT keeps it at 14% according to the obd2 connection
thats while going down a steep hill in a low gear at 2500-2800rpm. Possibly for emmissions?
 
We've had our 2011 Fusion SEL 2.5L for 7 months and 18,000 miles and love it. Compared to the 2005 Lexus RX330 we had before, it handles better, rides nicer, is more comfortable, quieter, and gets great mileage. It's a great 4-door family sedan.

The nearest vehicle Acura has is the TSX, which is $4000 higher with a smaller interior and trunk.
 
Cars will continue to get further and further away from vehicles that can be "driven" rather than just ridden-in.Todays cars are heavily padded,20 airbag equipped,direct injected,Microsoft running,circuit board based,artificial feeling,Politically correct,products of the Feds/local rules/the carmakers own idea of what a transportation appliance of today is supposed to be.Yes,fatality rates are way down,and generally vehicles are far more solid than they were years ago,however some things have gone too far in their "advancement".When steering,brakes,throttle and all other controls become absent from direct input and we rely on microchips to determine how we drive/how safely we drive...thats going too far.Thats not called a car,thats called a video game,with our lives and other real lives at stake.
 
Newer Fords have aggressive deceleration fuel cutoff. Pretty much to increase MPG's. From what I gather it will completely cut off fuel when your foot is off the gas like going down a hill. They say it helps fuel mileage but I notice it also helps engine braking as well.

I've got the EPAS (Electronic Power Activated Steering, IIRC) in my Taurus and it's light around town and decent on the highway. Not as "communicative" as my previous G35 but it does require less effort.

There's still a direct connection to the brakes and steering system. If any of the electronic stuff fails you still have a good old mechanical connection. I don't see that changing any time soon.

I like the "nannies". In the 2 years I've had my Taurus the collision avoidance system has saved my butt a few times. Mainly when I'm in traffic and someone slams on the brakes. It beeps and I hit mine. No substitute for paying attention but when you are distracted (by whatever: wife, kids, stereo, etc) they can help out.
 
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Are this Built in the FORD?Mazda Flat rock plant like my old 626 was? Is this sim to the Mazda 6 platform?


No. The Fusion is built in Ford's Hermosillo, Mexico, plant.
 
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Are this Built in the FORD?Mazda Flat rock plant like my old 626 was? Is this sim to the Mazda 6 platform?


The Fusion is built in Mexico. It's the same platform as the Mazda6 but it is roughly 1 inch wider and 2 inches longer than the previous Mazda6.

The 6's DBW and transmission programming different than the Fusion. To me, my 6's throttle is more responsive than a Jetta GLI and noticeably more so than the Fusion's.

You can also manually select your gears in an automatic Mazda6. In the first round of Fusions you get Park, Reverse, Neutral, Don't even think of selecting your own ratios, and Leave this one alone.
 
Originally Posted By: Nick R
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Are this Built in the FORD?Mazda Flat rock plant like my old 626 was? Is this sim to the Mazda 6 platform?


No. The Fusion is built in Ford's Hermosillo, Mexico, plant.


Hermosillo is making a lot of the cars for Ford. The Fiesta is also made there. The last generation focus wasnt when I was at ford but I bet the new one may be made down there as well.
 
Originally Posted By: Robenstein
Originally Posted By: Nick R
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Are this Built in the FORD?Mazda Flat rock plant like my old 626 was? Is this sim to the Mazda 6 platform?


No. The Fusion is built in Ford's Hermosillo, Mexico, plant.


Hermosillo is making a lot of the cars for Ford. The Fiesta is also made there. The last generation focus wasnt when I was at ford but I bet the new one may be made down there as well.


No, the Focus is still being built in Wayne, Michigan.
 
Originally Posted By: NHGUY
When steering,brakes,throttle and all other controls become absent from direct input and we rely on microchips to determine how we drive/how safely we drive...thats going too far.Thats not called a car,thats called a video game,with our lives and other real lives at stake.


And yet...

Originally Posted By: NHGUY
Yes,fatality rates are way down,and generally vehicles are far more solid than they were years ago...


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I put about 100 miles on a 2010 recently:

Overall they are nice cars, can't really complain. Drive nice, pretty stiff, great ergonomics and good quality.

OTOH I hated it and would never buy one. Firstly its a 4 banger, FWD, and has a 6spd. All things that don't work well for it. The transmission loves to shift and in traffic I slapped it over the head and held it in 3rd because it was [censored] me off. FWD in general I'm not a fan of, I don't buy FWD vehicles. Lastly the motor wasn't all that powerful, but I guess for a family car its ok.

Nice car I guess but its not my kind of ride so take my complaints with a grain of salt. If its not a powerful, RWD European car I generally don't like it.
 
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I don't like that you can't manually select gears in an automatic Fusion. At least not in all models. Most manufacturers offer manual shifting via the shifter.

If the engine is cutting out and stalling on you, there's a problem with the car. It shouldn't stall out under any conditions. There's got to be a mechanical malfunction with it somewhere.
 
Originally Posted By: Nick R
Originally Posted By: Robenstein
Originally Posted By: Nick R
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Are this Built in the FORD?Mazda Flat rock plant like my old 626 was? Is this sim to the Mazda 6 platform?


No. The Fusion is built in Ford's Hermosillo, Mexico, plant.


Hermosillo is making a lot of the cars for Ford. The Fiesta is also made there. The last generation focus wasnt when I was at ford but I bet the new one may be made down there as well.


No, the Focus is still being built in Wayne, Michigan.



Good to hear. The redesign shared so much with the Fiesta I was thinking they moved it.
 
Now i see why ford passed on the handouts. Making basment quality stuff in non union plants and importing them. Not Good. Now i see why my new ranger engine died in 3 months: Made IN SPain.
 
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Now i see why ford passed on the handouts. Making basment quality stuff in non union plants and importing them. Not Good. Now i see why my new ranger engine died in 3 months: Made IN SPain.


Your engine died because you are abusing your vehicles, as nobody else on planet earth kills more engines than you. You're obviously doing something wrong.
 
I have a 2011 Fusion with almost 11,000 mile on it I bought new a year ago. It has the 2.5L 4 cyl. It is a fantastic car with great ride and great features. We looked at a Kia Optima and a Hiundai Sonata and there was no comparison. The Fusion was just better quality and rode better. The Kia road like a little tank. We get 28 to 32 mph in mixed driving and as high as 37 on the hwy. Not one single problem in the whole year we have owned it. I don't think it shifts too much nor do I believe it is geared wrong. I traded in an 07 Tahoe for the Fusion and I can't believe I am saying this but I enjoy driving the Fusion more than the Tahoe. The Fusion gets double the mpg too. We nicknamed the Fusion "The Little Caddy" because it feels like one inside. It's the top SEL model.
 
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