Franken Brews what would you use?

[StevieC]

I thought I would start this interesting thread... With all the oils I have tried, the thought has crossed my mind many times to try making my own home brew of oils.

I was thinking the following:

2 quarts 0w30 Redline
2 quarts AMSOIL Signature Series 0w30
1 quart Mobil 0w40 or Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck

 

[Drew99GT]

Originally Posted By: StevieC
the thought has crossed my mind many times to try making my own home brew of oils.



What makes you think you know more then the guys who engineer motor oil?

That's what I don't get with the franken brew ideas.

If you want 0w-30, then run 0w30 from the same brand!

Originally Posted By: StevieC

I was thinking


That's what usually leads to trouble for me.

 

[StevieC]

I don't... Just having fun is all...

 

[Herz]

do it! and UOA it too

worst franken brew I ever ran was

1 valvoline 10-40
1 chevron supreme 10-30
1 chevron supreme 5-30
1 castrol sae 30

in my 2.5 jeep cause I was too lazy to go to walmart.

 

[Colt45ws]

Im running a 45%/55% blend of 15W40 Delvac and 5W20 Quaker state in the Montana for the duration of the clean-out and ARX phases after the headgasket job.

Im thinking of running an identical 45/55 blend of RTS and Pennzoil High Mileage 5w30 after I get it cleaned out. Should bring it right around 12.8cSt.

 

[JohnBrowning]

Well first I do not know the guy personally engineering my oil so for all I know he could be fairly average in every single way!Not all chemists or engineer's are top of their class! Second all oil except boutique oil is made to a price point first and all other factors come second.Third I know that if the engineer/chemist coul dhave used ester's and stayed inside the price point he was given he would have as they are better at all things you want an oil for in a car or truck etc....Forth I am almost sure that the person that designed the oil did not have BITOG members in mind when blending up their oil!Last but not least none of the oil on the shelfs was blended with John in mind!

So with all of that said do I think I can put together an oil that will be a blend of two different oils that will out perform 100% of either of the two seperately?????Yes I do. I am 100% sure that if I where to blend Redline 0W40 and Mobil 1 0W40 I could get a product that would last longer in the engine then either one alone and reduce wear and friction to levels that are better then either one alone. I will get around to proving that point in due time......Just have to wait for it is all!

 

[Captain_Klink]

I blend Franken Mix according to the season, winters get synthetic 5w30
with 25% 5w20 MC semi synthetic. summers get conventional 5w30 with 25% synthetic 10w30. very simple, works well.

 

[sciphi]

2 quarts Schaeffer's 7000 5w30
2 quarts Formula Shell 5w30
.75 quart Pennz. Plat. 5w-20

And that will take care of the loose quarts laying around.

 

[Loobed]

Originally Posted By: Drew99GT


What makes you think you know more then the guys who engineer motor oil?



He has spent more time on the internet then the oil engineers spent in the classroom and laboratory.

 

[postjeeprcr]

Originally Posted By: StevieC
I don't... Just having fun is all...


You are fighting the current on this site by having fun and starting a thread like this. Good Job!!!

 

[Loobed]

Originally Posted By: defektes


worst franken brew I ever ran was


A friend of mine worked at a Union 76 gas station as a kid. I would go by there everyday and pull the old oil bottles out of the trash and drain what was left into a clean gallon milk jug. After about 3 weeks I had a gallon of motor oil of unknown weight. They sold 10w30, 20W-50, 10W-40, and maybe 5W-50. It cost nothing and it worked as good as any oil to lube the cement under my engine.

 

[Loobed]

I was contemplating running 5 qts of Pennzoil Platinum with 1 qt of RedLine. Or 5 qts of Q-synthetic with 1 qt RedLine.

But considering I can get 10 quarts of PP for the same price as 1 quart of RedLine, I don't think I will do it.

Other than that I don't think I would deliberately mix oil chemistry.

 

[StevieC]

If I really need help "Mixing my own brew" I can ask my brother who is a mechanical engineer with a specialization in fluid dynamics and is currently working in MIT's engine efficiency lab in Boston.

But I would rather just mix and see for myself.

 

[Drew99GT]

Originally Posted By: StevieC
If I really need help "Mixing my own brew" I can ask my brother who is a mechanical engineer with a specialization in fluid dynamics and is currently working in MIT's engine efficiency lab in Boston.




I'll still take the engineers who engineer a particular motor oil over your bother any day. Unless your brother knows the specifics of a particular engine oil, it's all speculation.

Just my

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: Loobed


I was contemplating running 5 qts of Pennzoil Platinum with 1 qt of RedLine. Or 5 qts of Q-synthetic with 1 qt RedLine.

But considering I can get 10 quarts of PP for the same price as 1 quart of RedLine, I don't think I will do it.

Other than that I don't think I would deliberately mix oil chemistry.



Funny you mention that because with coupons and rebates I got 10 qts of Edge and 2 Pure One filters for less than the cost of a qt of Red Line oil. In fact I probably could have scored 20 qts and 4 filters for about the cost of 1 qt of Red Line oil. Something I never thought of until you posted this.

 

[tig1]

After reading post from Doug, Tom NJ, and Resolute, there is no way I can out smart the lube engineers at XM, CP, Ams, Valv, and so forth. Just be happy with what comes off the shelf and drive with confidence for the next 200,000 miles from your daily driver.

 

[Stu_Rock]

I'm not afraid of mixing.

My next oil change in my supercharged Park Avenue is going to be a "frankenbrew" in order to use up some inventory. It will be:
3.0 qt 5w30 Pennzoil Platinum,
0.5 qt 5W-40 Shell Rotella-T, and
1.0 qt 20W-50 Quaker State "High-RPM" synblend.

Using the Refutas viscosity blending formula, that should yield a mixture that is 75.2 cSt at 40°C and 12.1 cSt at 100°C. The HTHS should come out to about 3.5 cP. This amounts to a pretty thick 5w30--somewhat like an ACEA A3 blend. I deliberately chose the ratio above in order to get this viscosity because I want to see how a 12 cSt oil does in that car.

 

[lipadj46]

I have a bunch of mobil 1 15w50 (poor man's redline) and I put in 1 or 2 quarts of that and 4 or 5 of Rotella 5w40 (or whatever 40w syn might be on sale). I also add a can of lubromoly MoS2 to get a good witches brew. I am a chemist and chemical engineer by education and don't buy too much into this whole "upsetting the formulation" thing. I do know the concentration of additives and make sure that by mixing I am not lowering any one of them by too much. I tend to use oils that are high in ZDDP and detergents though.

I appreciate the work that goes into engineering an oil but also I like to use what I have and not waste anything. I don't necessarily think I gain anything by mixing but it is fun trying out different combos of slightly different weights and seeing how my engine responds.

 

[ADFD1]

IIRC John Browning (respected member) does some oil tweaking, brewing, etc. Please correct me if I am wrong. I think that the oil companies turn out a great product, however they have a price point to meet. So maybe there is some merit to these Franken Brews.

 

[Colt45ws]

Originally Posted By: ADFD1
IIRC John Browning (respected member) does some oil tweaking, brewing, etc. Please correct me if I am wrong. I think that the oil companies turn out a great product, however they have a price point to meet. So maybe there is some merit to these Franken Brews.

In my case, I would just like 10W30 diesel rated, but nobody sells that around here. Im on my last jug of Rotella 10W30, and that is reserved for a special instance.