Fram Ultra I May Not Be Using Them Anymore! Oh Boy

[CharlieBauer]

Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
Don't worry, I won't put you on ignore!

Originally Posted By: bullwinkle

I wish there was a way to send these Puro disaster pics to AAP, Motorcraft, etc.-maybe they could bring the heat on M&H to fix their junk!


Twitter?

 

[goodtimes]

Burs or "burrs" are in the pics shown here. Dictionary: Bur- "a thin ridge or area of roughness produced in cutting or shaping metal"
Yes the bur particles can and will come off. The over bought efficiency numbers won't show it.

 

[CarbonSteel]

Originally Posted By: goodtimes
Burs or "burrs" are in the pics shown here. Dictionary: Bur- "a thin ridge or area of roughness produced in cutting or shaping metal" Yes the bur particles can and will come off. The over bought efficiency numbers won't show it.
No way. Maybe (and that is a huge maybe) if they were drilled and the edges were thin and cut, but it is very clear these were punched and the burr is noting more than a protrusion which is still fully connected. You guys are seriously grasping for straws.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: goodtimes
Burs or "burrs" are in the pics shown here. Dictionary: Bur- "a thin ridge or area of roughness produced in cutting or shaping metal"
Yes the bur particles can and will come off. The over bought efficiency numbers won't show it.


"Bur" and "Burr" are both correct, but bur is the variant spelling of burr which is the "preferred" spelling.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bur

Burrs or no burrs ... there isn't any metal that's going to come off from the edges of the holes. No more than any other cut or sheared edge of metal inside any oil filter ever manufactured.

 

[crazyoildude]

Burrs or bur.. Whatever you call it the oil holes in the center tube are different on some of the same filters.. They are punched not drilled ..Does it make a big difference that they are not punched all the way open??? I don't know for sure and i and nobody else on here knows every time their filters go into bypass. It is a minor quality control issue at most and im sure if someone looks at other filters there are some issues with them also. I never said i saw metal coming off any of the fram filters and i believe the ultra is one of the better synthetic filters out there, nothing is truly perfect.. As a side note i looked at a Fram Ultra 7317 i had in my garage and it looked perfect in every way i could see without cutting a new filter open. If you guys want me to post a picture or two i will.

 

[ZeeOSix]

If you look at the holes of the filter in these photos they too have a lip or ridge around the circumference of the center tube holes. If you look at a lot of oil filters, you'll probably see it's not a rare thing to see. It's just the nature of punching out holes in mass produced oil filters.

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[Garak]

Originally Posted By: demarpaint
If you actually had an opportunity to deal with Jay via PM you'd feel differently. He's a stand up guy and an excellent company representative. He's got a good sense of humor too, it showed in his reply. He's doing his job and admits to getting paid for it, at least he's being honest about it.

Exactly. I don't even use Fram oil filters, but I don't consider Jay a shill in the least. He's a good representative of his company, and has definitely helped improve the reputation of Fram filters here.

If he should be criticized for doing that, well yes, he's guilty as sin.

He is proud of his company, and that shows. He's been more forthright and helpful than almost any other company rep I think of that posts.

 

[CarbonSteel]

Originally Posted By: crazyoildude
Does it make a big difference that they are not punched all the way open???
What holes are not punched all the way open? Unless I missed something, ALL of them are punched open, but MOST of them have a protrusion of metal extending out of the hole due to the punching process.

 

[DoubleWasp]

I've just been laughing at the idea of burrs on a punched hole. That would take somexit monstrously disgusting punch to pull that off. I'm not sure you get burrs from a punched hole on purpose.

 

[surfstar]

Has no one else brought up that you're also punching holes in a corrugated piece of metal? Of course some will have a 'lip' depending on where it hits - the thing is spiral and corrugated.

Of course the OP passed right over logic on his pole-vaulting jump to his conclusion.


10 pages.

Awesome

 

[crazyoildude]

Its Hilarious how some people can look at a picture and not see it for what it is.. And argue about what they did not see. Im not an ultra hater at all i still think they are good filters..

 

[CarbonSteel]

Originally Posted By: crazyoildude
Its Hilarious how some people can look at a picture and not see it for what it is.. And argue about what they did not see. Im not an ultra hater at all i still think they are good filters..
Post the picture(s) with what you are describing. I am looking at the picture(s) and DO see it for what it is--punched holes in a center tube with slight protrusions on the exit side as a part of the punching process. I do not see partially opened holes, burrs which will come off during operation, or any conditions which will cause a problem with the engine on which it is installed.

What is hilarious is the bovine scatology that permeates this thread...

 

[surfstar]

You're not crazy enough to think that the wire backed media are the burrs, right?

I thought we told you that on the first page.

 

[crazyoildude]

Surf.. I know the difference between the wire backed media and what is considered a burr.. I am reading your posts and they are getting silly i can see by your emoticon that you look to be a little confused. I see on your profile here you are an ex student.. Interesting..

 

[Sayjac]

14 pages on 15 entries per page, and counting.....

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: Sayjac

14 pages on 15 entries per page, and counting.....



LOL It's a thread that keeps on giving.

 

[Sayjac]

Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: Sayjac

14 pages on 15 entries per page, and counting.....



LOL It's a thread that keeps on giving.

No doubt!

 

[surfstar]

LOL - I'm the one confused

ex means I graduated. Another logic test you failed.


No one else considers that a burr. Despite what millennials wish, a personal belief is not a truth.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: Sayjac
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: Sayjac

14 pages on 15 entries per page, and counting.....



LOL It's a thread that keeps on giving.

No doubt!


That's what happens with ridiculous threads.

 

[corndogzombie]

Originally Posted By: surfstar
LOL - I'm the one confused

ex means I graduated. Another logic test you failed.


No one else considers that a burr. Despite what millennials wish, a personal belief is not a truth.

Actually there are others that agree there are burrs. you haven't read the whole thread, whch I don't blame you. It's a circus in this post. But like I mentioned before, what's really freaky is how the majority of those participating blatantly ignore the very apparent fact that the burrs really are there. My suspicion is that a few posters obviously have an invested interest (perhaps just emotionally, perhaps more) in the filter brand/make and the rest are just eagerly, pathetically following along. They'd do a complete 180 if they were to ever witness those they perceive to carry the biggest sticks change their minds or if someone else came along with a bigger stick they'd slobber all over themselves in a rush to get in line and follow in an attempt to be part of the in crowd. Yeah, the same ole cowardice mentality that has always propelled the atrocities of the sociopaths' thinking into being. Eg. Hitler, mousiluni, stallin, lennon, Obama.

BUT the good news in this case is, we're just talking about some stupid oil filters lol