Fram TG vs Wix

[aquariuscsm]

I`ve been using Fram TG`s for a long time now. Decided to go with a Wix this time,was only a dollar more. Does everyone think Wix is superior? I was using the TG`s out of convenience since I can pick up the jug of oil and filter at the same place (Walmart). Bought a fresh jug of M1 at Walmart and drove over to Oreilly to get the Wix oil filter.

 

[wolf_06]

Yes, I will never use a Fram filter, always carquest, napa gold, both made by wix.
Good quality, decent price. Fram is just made''cheap''. You get what you pay for.

 

[KCJeep]

The Fram has a higher efficiency media I believe, but the construction of the Wix is much stouter. Either should do you just fine.

 

[Tempest]

I've been running TG for a while now and no issues. They are big step up from the orange cans of death.

 

[4x4chevydude]

Fram should be fine if its cheaper and more convienient I would stick with that.

 

[Texan4Life]

I would use a Wix over a TG, but like you prefer not having to run around to different stores. So in your case I would go with a puro classic from WM. I think it would serve just as well as the TG/Wix.

or if you want to step it up a notch their is the D+ and fram ultra (XG) @ WM also.

my .02

 

[KCJeep]

Or since you're buying at Wal-mart, you could hook up with the Fram Ultra for $9 and run it 2 OCI's, top tier filter and saves you money too.

 

[Zaedock]

Originally Posted By: wolf_06
Fram is just made''cheap''. You get what you pay for.



Actually, that's backwards in regard to Fram - that's the problem. They cost more and you don't get what you pay for.

Walmart carries Purolator now. Cheaper and better than Fram.

I did clean them out of some PH43's for my Jeeps at $1 each though <- that's more like it!

 

[aquariuscsm]

Originally Posted By: KCJeep
The Fram has a higher efficiency media


What`s that mean? Better flow? Sounds like a good thing. I apologize in advance for my ignorance :^P The Wix for my car is the *made in Mexico* one,#51361

 

[Tempest]

Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Or since you're buying at Wal-mart, you could hook up with the Fram Ultra for $9 and run it 2 OCI's, top tier filter and saves you money too.


As I recall, the TG is a better filter (forget the specs), but the Ultra is designed to last "longer". This is why I stick with TG. The Ultra used to have "time release" gunk in it too.

 

[volk06]

Originally Posted By: Tempest
I've been running TG for a while now and no issues. They are big step up from the orange cans of death.

Not according to the latest autopsies of the TG filters the last few weeks...

 

[hemitom]

It seems fram always gets a bad rap for there filters. I have used them with no problems, do i use them now ? no i feel i do better with the puro classics at a cheaper price. Do they deserve the bad rap? who knows, you have posters claiming they will never use the orange can of death because of defective filters shown here . I bet for the millions of fram filters put into service every year their failure rate is no greater than any other filter.

 

[cp3]

I want to like the TG and didn't have any issue with the one I used but the recent posts are disappointing. I guess the question is is this the norm or the exception? I'm sure every manufacturer has their QC issues, we've seen exceptions from most. That said, Wix construction is pretty solid but the TG does trump it in efficiency, IF you get a decent example.

Tempest, the goo is in the High Mileage filters I believe. The new Ultra replaces the Extended Guard and is rated the same as the TG now for efficiency, at 99.9%.

Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm

What`s that mean? Better flow? Sounds like a good thing. I apologize in advance for my ignorance :^P The Wix for my car is the *made in Mexico* one,#51361


Efficiency is how well it removes contaminants. Usually higher efficiency results in less flow or at least more resistance to flow.

hemitom make a good point, IF Fram is number 1 in filter sales by a fair margin, 1% failure rate of their sales will be more than 1% of someone else's. Add that to a group of people with a distaste for the product who do things like look where no one else does.....

 

[KCJeep]

Yeah the Toughgard is 99%, the new Ultra 99%+ and the Wix is quite a bit lower than that, but I'm not certain I remember the number so I won't post in error.

Wix is very well built I wouldn't let that scare you off.

The Fram with "goo" is the High Mileage as mentioned above, not the Ultra.

The Ultra is simply a fantastic filter. Two layers of synthetic wire backed media, metal end caps, silicone ADBV and efficiency of over 99% with a 15,000 mile suggested use rating and a huge capacity too. Hard to beat that for 9 bucks!

If I wasn't sitting on so many filters I'd probably just run Ultras on an annual basis and forget about it. But even if you run them for just 2 OCI's that's $4.50 an OCI, less than you are paying now, and a better filter to boot.

 

[Tempest]

Quote:
Tempest, the goo is in the High Mileage filters I believe. The new Ultra replaces the Extended Guard and is rated the same as the TG now for efficiency, at 99.9%.


Thanks for the update. I'll have to have a closer look at them.

 

[EricF]

Wix's filtration percentage seems more like a realistic testing percentage than fram's everything's 99% because if they put 100% they'd be sued out of business.

 

[cp3]

Yes there has been talk before about Fram's efficiency ratings and if maybe they were marketing speak. But you half to wonder if the same wouldn't happen if someone proved their 99.9% was untrue.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
The Fram has a higher efficiency media


What`s that mean? Better flow?


No ... "more efficient" means the media can catch smaller particles. It may or may not flow better ... that all depends on the media's flow characteristics and the media flow area.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: EricF
Wix's filtration percentage seems more like a realistic testing percentage than fram's everything's 99% because if they put 100% they'd be sued out of business.


Filter makers can't say it's 99% without it being so unless they want to be sued also. You can bet any large filter maker has ISO test data to back up their efficiency claims in a court of law.

 

[RF Overlord]

Originally Posted By: Tempest
As I recall, the TG is a better filter (forget the specs)
From every pic I've seen here, the TG is nothing more than an OCOD element with a silicone ADBV, so I'm not sure it's a better filter.

And the High Mileage flavour is nothing but a marketing gimmick.

With FRAM, it's "either go Ultra or go home".