FRAM Extended Guard at Walmart

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I got the Super Tech filter for my last oil change and I am bout to drop my oil again for yet another OCI!! They were out of the usual ST7317 Super Tech oil filter for my 3.0 liter V6 I roll on. I happen to read in the book that the Fram Extended Guard can also be used. So I get to reading on the box about how it uses more pleats (to go longer intervals).

My question is this more pleats should automatically make it a better filter over the ST right? Especially because I plan on using it for only my normal 5k-ish OCIs. Is the FRAM extended guard a better filter then the Supertech filter because it costs 5 bucks more? I am assuming the more pleats would make it better?

It should be sturdy enough to go a 5000 OCI. Yes i am one of these 'cynics' who thinks FRAMs do not 'blow-up' just because some of their cheaper ones use cardboard end caps etc. Would this Extended guard necessarily use the same cheap cardboard endcaps as some of their non extended filters?

I need to know if the extended guard with more pleats would make it a better choice from a pleats standpoint then all the normal drain filters like Fram (normal), MC, ST, PP etc, correct?

Anyone know?
 
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If you can find value in a Fram, buy it! I think that BITOG has finally burst a good bit of Fram's bubble. I now see the standard orange can for $3.47 at the local WM ..right along side MC for the same price. I'll still take the MC ..any day.

Fram's got a long way to go up the line to match performance and price. I don't really think that they can.
 
I thought that the Extended Guard had extra additives in the filter designed to release into the oil during use or something.

Are there any non-Fram filters there, like really, for the price, I'd just go pick up a NAPA Gold or Wix filter and not even bother with the Fram, even the "better" Fram.

The Supertech is probably equal or better than the Fram.
 
Originally Posted By: MGregoir
I thought that the Extended Guard had extra additives in the filter designed to release into the oil during use or something.

Are there any non-Fram filters there, like really, for the price, I'd just go pick up a NAPA Gold or Wix filter and not even bother with the Fram, even the "better" Fram.

The Supertech is probably equal or better than the Fram.
I would say way better quality for the money.
 
Originally Posted By: MGregoir
I thought that the Extended Guard had extra additives in the filter designed to release into the oil during use or something.

Are there any non-Fram filters there, like really, for the price, I'd just go pick up a NAPA Gold or Wix filter and not even bother with the Fram, even the "better" Fram.

The Supertech is probably equal or better than the Fram.


The time release is for the FRAM High Mileage and not the Extended guard atleast that's not what I read on the EG Box but only on the high Mileage box. So you are saying the Time Release is an additive that is also on the EG?
 
Fram offers some really robust filters ..but they're way too expensive and appear to be not of premier performance in terms of finer filtration. I just can't get the numbers to work on a cost:benefit basis.
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That's the only reason I don't use them. I can do as good or better for less anywhere up the line.
 
I need to know if the extended guard with more pleats would make it a better choice from a pleats standpoint then all the normal drain filters like Fram (normal), MC, ST, PP etc, correct?

Another words, I am using a MC clone for oil and the additives take a big hit past 4 or 4.5k so i am wondering if I can a bit more life out of the oil as well if I use this filter with more pleats over the normal every-day filters.

Anyone know?
 
Okay, let's see if I'm figure out what your perceived needs are here.

How long does it take you to accumulate 4-5k miles? What's your driving profile and annual mileage? How is your average fuel economy compared to your ideal fuel economy? What's your daily drive?

Most oils have no issue with 5-7k miles if it's accumulated in a relatively short time span. Most everyone can use 6 months as a guide for an OCI unless they're in some really odd/severe situation.

Filter choice is pretty much, imo, based on what sensible gains can be had given the length of service that they, and the oil, sees. Short OCIs due to service? No reason for a fancy and expensive filter.

You need to get your money's worth out of everything you do
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The pleats mean there is a greater surface area for flow, and that the filter can trap more of the larger material before it restricts down and starts bypassing.

An oil filter like a Wix or a Purolator PureONE seems to be good for 10,000 miles or more, Amsoil EaOs maybe longer.

A regular Fram is a 3,000 mile filter and an Extended Guard might be a 5,000 mile filter, and I really wouldn't consider them much better than that due to wimpy surface area and poor quality control. All it will help with for your oil is the insolubles. The High Mileage filter might be an even worse performer than the plain orange can Extra Guard due to how much flow is restricted by the carrier for the additive.

I'd take the Supertech filter between the two, and in most cases if given the choice, I'd just get a Wix filter.
 
These are good filters and compare well to the WIX, Napa, and Mobil 1. They are the top of the line Fram synthetic filters and built very well. Fram guarantees them for 7,500 miles.
 
Fram XG filters are good filters. They have synthetic blend media with a metal mesh behind the pleats for durability. I am using it in my car right now and have had no issues. There is a thread here where its been cut open next to an Amsoil Eao filter. I'll try to dig it up for you and post it.
 
I ran an XG for 15k Blackstone said insolubles were low. Good filter
Fram also makes a double guard that has PTFE inside the filter. Supposedly it releases over time. I would leave that one on the shelf
 
I hadn't seen the inside of an Extended Guard before...that is a pretty good filter.

Every other Fram filter seemed to be some variation of the pressboard theme.
 
Originally Posted By: deven
Fram XG filters are good filters. They have synthetic blend media with a metal mesh behind the pleats for durability. I am using it in my car right now and have had no issues. There is a thread here where its been cut open next to an Amsoil Eao filter. I'll try to dig it up for you and post it.


Oh, it's a robust constructed filter, but, IIRC, it doesn't nearly match the performance level in filtration that a PureOne does. This is an expensive Fram filter.

I believe that they market this for holding capacity. I really don't see anyone leaving any filter on long enough to even challenge a ST filter unless you're neglecting the engine.

It's a decent filter. I still think that it costs too much for what it brings to the table.
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Now there may be instances where you want this robust construction and are not concerned with the fine level of filtration. That would be one reason for buying it over more cost effective offerings.
 
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Originally Posted By: deven
Fram XG filters are good filters. They have synthetic blend media with a metal mesh behind the pleats for durability. I am using it in my car right now and have had no issues. There is a thread here where its been cut open next to an Amsoil Eao filter. I'll try to dig it up for you and post it.


Oh, it's a robust constructed filter, but, IIRC, it doesn't nearly match the performance level in filtration that a PureOne does. This is an expensive Fram filter.

I believe that they market this for holding capacity. I really don't see anyone leaving any filter on long enough to even challenge a ST filter unless you're neglecting the engine.

It's a decent filter. I still think that it costs too much for what it brings to the table.
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Now there may be instances where you want this robust construction and are not concerned with the fine level of filtration. That would be one reason for buying it over more cost effective offerings.



I totally agree with you Gary. I'm only using it cuz i got it for $1.50 and couldnt give that price up.
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