Fram Endurance FE10575 C&P

[BrendanC]

2018 silverado 2500hd 6.0L 105k miles
in service 12k miles

out/off: 6 quarts HPL PCEO 5w-30 with Fram Endurance FE10575

in/on: 6 quarts HPL PCEO 5w-40 with Carquest Extended Protection P84502

ruffles were visible and able to feel with fingernail.

 

[Panda87]

Thanks for sharing these!

Was this one of the fleet that has seen HPL before or was this the first OCI of HPL? Quite a bit of debris at the bottom of the can and the filter media looks positively loaded.

 

[BrendanC]

Thanks for sharing these!

Was this one of the fleet that has seen HPL before or was this the first OCI of HPL? Quite a bit of debris at the bottom of the can and the filter media looks positively loaded.

this is likely the first round for that truck. it’s one of the very few trucks that has a gooseneck hitch in it so it doesn’t see many miles.

I don’t agree that the media looks loaded, every endurance i’ve ever cut open looks exactly the same in the media department, and HPL has the reddish hue that makes everything look darker.

 

[Panda87]

this is likely the first round for that truck. it’s one of the very few trucks that has a gooseneck hitch in it so it doesn’t see many miles.

I don’t agree that the media looks loaded, every endurance i’ve ever cut open looks exactly the same in the media department, and HPL has the reddish hue that makes everything look darker.

I’ve heard it’s the high moly that does that reddish color.
Do you run all the trucks out to 12k per OCI? I remember you saying they do see a lot of idle time in another one of your C&P posts.

I can’t say that my Fram Titanium cartridges look quite that blacked out and slick when I pull them at 10k in my GL450, but maybe it’s engine dependent?

Either way, cool stuff man. I do appreciate you sharing all of these!

 

[BrendanC]

I’ve heard it’s the high moly that does that reddish color.
Do you run all the trucks out to 12k per OCI? I remember you saying they do see a lot of idle time in another one of your C&P posts.

I can’t say that my Fram Titanium cartridges look quite that blacked out and slick when I pull them at 10k in my GL450, but maybe it’s engine dependent?

Either way, cool stuff man. I do appreciate you sharing all of these!

all fleet vehicles go 12k on HPL regardless of engine hours. i decided this based on a couple used oil analysis, research here and talking with Dave at HPL. he is of the opinion it could go further, i tend to believe him but 12k miles is an easy interval and i like to put my eyes on the trucks to determine if they’re still mechanically sound (suspension etc).

 

[Panda87]

all fleet vehicles go 12k on HPL regardless of engine hours. i decided this based on a couple used oil analysis, research here and talking with Dave at HPL. he is of the opinion it could go further, i tend to believe him but 12k miles is an easy interval and i like to put my eyes on the trucks to determine if they’re still mechanically sound (suspension etc).

My Ford 5.4 3v sure couldn’t do that sort of OCI right off the cuff, but the internals were excessively filthy.

I’ve attached analyses of that engine. 1st run is Amsoil 5w-20. 2nd is HPL PCMO 5w-20. I’ve now got HPL PCMO 5w-40 in it and WOULD have an analysis for it now had UPS not lost this kit. That’s two different analyses lost for this vehicle. USPS lost the first one, so I switched to UPS thinking (mistakenly) they would be able to deliver it too. It made it to Plainfield, IN right outside the lab and then got shipped to Buffalo, NY never to be seen again.

 

[ZeeOSix]

I’ve heard it’s the high moly that does that reddish color.

I thought the reddish color was the oil cleaning up some varnish deposits.

 

[Panda87]

I thought the reddish color was the oil cleaning up some varnish deposits.

I believe I had seen somewhere a while back, might have been Overkill or Rdy4war that explained it, that the high amount of moly gets that reddish hue when subjected to heat cycles. I could be wrong

 

[ZeeOSix]

I believe I had seen somewhere a while back, might have been Overkill or Rdy4war that explained it, that the high amount of moly gets that reddish hue when subjected to heat cycles. I could be wrong

Guess if a motor oil turned reddish brown from use in a new perfectly clean engine, then it would be from something beside cleaning deposits.