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I've been looking at used pickups for a while and had some interesting observations.

My criterion was a 3/4 ton pickup in the 1993-2002 age range, a price range of $5000 to $10,000, and mileage varied from 85K to 263K. It had to be 4 wheel drive for use in the winter. I looked at a 12 Chevy/GMC's, 9 Fords and 6 Dodges, all from private owners. 3 of the GM's were half tons and one Ford was a half ton (not meeting my 3/4 ton criteria, but they were nice enough to warrant a consideration). The rest were all 3/4 ton.

GM: Years ranged from 1994 to 1999 and mileage from 98K to 195K. All but 2 had at least some surface rust, ranging from small bubbles forming at the cab corners and over the rear wheel wells to rust holes that I could put my hand into. 8 had engine or transmission replacements or rebuilds at some time in the past. Most of the ads read "XX miles on NEW transmission!" and seemed to be a selling point for the owners. 8 were auto, 4 were manual transmissions. There were no diesels.

Ford: Years ranged from 1993 to 2001 and mileage from 120K to 263K. 1 had some serious rust holes over the rear wheel wells and the bottom edge of the tailgate was rotted away. 2 had minor rust starting around the rear wheel wells, the remaining 6 were rust free. 3 had transmission rebuilds or replacement in the past, but there were no engine
rebuilds/replacements (that I was told about). The truck with the most mileage was a 1999 F250 Super Duty with 263K (gas engine and automatic transmission). Surprisingly, according to the owner this truck never had a rebuilt engine or transmission. There were 2 diesels, all were automatic except for one of the diesels.

Dodge: Years ranged from 1996 to 2002 and mileage from 85K to 178K. One had some light rust started around the bottom of the cab and wheel wells, the rest were rust free. One had a transmission replaced, one had some valve/lifter work done, but no engines had been rebuilt/replaced (that the current owners would admit). One was a diesel and it was also the only manual transmission.

It appears that the GM products were the worst of the lot. I looked at so many GM's because frankly I wanted one-I like the looks of them. But they seemed to be the roughest of the trucks that I viewed. There is nothing scientific about it, it's simply personal observation compiled from my notes.

I finally settled on a black 1999 Dodge Club Cab 4X4 with 85,000 miles for $5200. 5.9L gas engine and automatic transmission. It's been sitting since the owner passed away almost a year ago-the son did say he used it 3-4 times since dad passed. No rust, a couple of small door dings, and it has been garaged most of its life. More "features" than I really wanted, but given the mileage, condition and price I couldn't pass on this one. Since it only has 85K on it, and I only plan to put on 2,000 or so per year, it will be a long time before it sees 100K. I plan to use it for some landscaping over the next couple of years, I'll also pick up a trailer to haul my tractors to shows (perhaps once or twice a year). I might look at investing in a snow plow for it since plowing with an open tractor at -10 with the wind blowing is starting to get uncomfortable (I have a long rural driveway).

When I filled up the fuel tank I knew why I didn't have a pickup as a daily driver. I much prefer putting $15-20 each week into the Hyundai. $47 to fill it up from half made my wallet cry out in agony.

I went by Advanced Auto on the way home and picked up a 5qt jug of Maxlife 10w30 ($16.99), an STP oil filter ($3.48), a Purolator air filter ($5.99) and a PCV valve ($2.99). The oil was changed Sunday, along with the air filter and PCV valve. I'm planning to change the transmission, differentials and transfer case fluids the next couple of weeks. I then plan to do annual oil changes.

At some point this summer I'll put an engine block heater on it for cold winter starts. I'm still debating on parking it in the shop for the winter (I have an empty bay) or just leaving it out. We'll see.

All in all it was an interesting experience, and I ended up with a pretty decent truck at a price that I felt was reasonable. I also met some very colorful people while I looked at trucks.
 
The last Dodge I had, had the 5.9 in it. 1994 Dodge 1500 4x4, no problems, 128,000 when I traded it. Great truck, had it for 12 years. I really hated to part with it and was somewhat afraid of the Hemi and worried it would not be as reliable. Only thing you said, I didnt like was the STP oil filter(E-core-YUK!) Save your money on a block heater, totally un-needed, that Dodge was a PA truck and sat out all the time, you would have to dig a hole in the snow to the door to get in it, never did not crank over in well below 0. Gas engines arent anything like diesels.
 
Wow,thats quite an observation.Manufacturers vs years, vs miles,yes if its real quiet sshhh...listen...you can hear a Chevy rusting right now,oh wait that ones mine.. anyway,certain model years were worse than others for northern trucks,Ford,GM Dodge they all got hit.This dodge you found was properly cared for washed,waxed etc. a good find ,most aren't so lucky.
 
Sounds like you did well! We have a 1997 4X2 Ram 1500 5.9 at work that we use to pull a trailer that is way too heavy for it. It is beat with a lot of hard miles on it but keeps running.

Sounds like you had a run of bad luck with the Chevys you looked at (they aren't that bad!), used cars especially 10 years old really are a mixed bag. It takes a lot of patience and effort to find the gem!
 
I hope yours lasts as long as my brother's father in laws.

96' 4x4 w/ the 5.9/Auto. Has 311,000 original miles on it! Yes the trans too.
 
i beleieve you got a pretty good truck. a snow plow would be a good investment also if you live in the snow belt. i plow my drive with my tractor (no cab) and it is getting old. if you have room to park it inside, why not do so??
 
Originally Posted By: HM12460
i beleieve you got a pretty good truck. a snow plow would be a good investment also if you live in the snow belt. i plow my drive with my tractor (no cab) and it is getting old. if you have room to park it inside, why not do so??


I might park it inside this winter-I'm still debating it. I like having the bay in my shop free to work on things (tractors, etc) but it would be nice to have the truck always free of snow. Part of me doesn't like starting a vehicle just to move it out of the way, but I also like the idea of not scraping the snow off when I want to use it in the winter.
 
We had one of those at my office, y2k or so with the 318, 3/4 ton. The excuse was we could plow our own lot with it since we're open 24/7.

Despite only plowing one 60-spot lot, and the boss' driveway, it needed several transmissions. Finally they found a check valve in the cooler line that was restricting flow. FWIW.

It plowed good, I got to play with it.
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I came up with a technique of standing on the brake pedal when going from R to D or vice versa in case a wheel was still spinning even if the truck were standing still. Figure it prolonged the transmission life. Of course my boss beat the tar out of it.
 
What I find rather strange is if you looked at 3/4 ton GM trucks they should have had the 4L80E which is [censored] near bullet proof. Our 98 K2500 has 200K on the original trans which happens to have the original fluid still in it and it has towed a landscape trailer full of commercial mowers 5 to 6 days a week its entire life and plowed snow in the winters. Also has absolutely ZERO rust on the body and some light surface rust on the frame.


Anyway good luck with your dodge! My friend just bought a 99 1/2 ton sport with the 5.9 360. Runs like a champ but the bed is so rusted you can put your arm through it over the wheel well's.
 
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