For those who have never used RP
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It's just another engine oil, nothing special. There's nothing wrong with it that a lower price would not fix.
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Originally Posted By: BikeWhisperer
Unless it contains unicorn blood (and the VOA's I have seen indicate that it does not), there is simply no reason to pay the premium for RP over other comparable API approved synthetics.
I'm sure it's a perfectly good oil otherwise
Yup
Unless it contains unicorn blood (and the VOA's I have seen indicate that it does not), there is simply no reason to pay the premium for RP over other comparable API approved synthetics.
I'm sure it's a perfectly good oil otherwise
Yup
I take care of a fleet of 110 V6 racing engines, Owners can choose their own motor oil and weight as long as its syn. After rebuilding This fleet since 1986 to present, and all logs kept with each engine, (3.3 million miles total fleet) im never really impressed with RP results....not bad, just not great bearing wear,and cly bore wear. spend your oil money elsewhere.
Originally Posted By: Astro14
Yep.
Why pay twice as much as Mobil 1 0W40 that performs so very well in my V-12?
You would think for as much money as they're charging, they could afford to send a guy a free 2 ounce sample of assembly lube.
Yep.
Why pay twice as much as Mobil 1 0W40 that performs so very well in my V-12?
You would think for as much money as they're charging, they could afford to send a guy a free 2 ounce sample of assembly lube.
For all the people who asked why I love it, I'll answer that but probably turn this thread to RP bashing again.
1)It really does make my engine run smoother even though fred flinstone thinks its my butt dyno.
2)In the last 3 years I have gotten into the racing scene and a lot of the local well known builders always swear on using Royal Purple. When asked why they always cite teardowns and now owning a speed shop and having my mechanics tear down engines I slowly became a believer.
3)I have no issues going 12,000 mile OCIs so the premium price is not that much of an issue for me.
4)I'm convinced that they use some of the best basestocks and additive packages(my opinion) in the market so am willing to pay for it.
1)It really does make my engine run smoother even though fred flinstone thinks its my butt dyno.
2)In the last 3 years I have gotten into the racing scene and a lot of the local well known builders always swear on using Royal Purple. When asked why they always cite teardowns and now owning a speed shop and having my mechanics tear down engines I slowly became a believer.
3)I have no issues going 12,000 mile OCIs so the premium price is not that much of an issue for me.
4)I'm convinced that they use some of the best basestocks and additive packages(my opinion) in the market so am willing to pay for it.
Don't hate it at all.
As I've posted before, if I can get some on clearance for fifteeen bucks a jug, I'll give it a try.
I won't pay $37.00 a jug just to try any oil, though.
I have plenty of cheap or free synthetics on hand and see no reason to pay a huge premium just to try something different.
I don't really care about the dye job.
I've used two oils that were obviously dyed.
One was GC and the other was VR1 syn.
Motor oil as blended is neither green, blue nor purple, nor is ATF naturally red.
As I've posted before, if I can get some on clearance for fifteeen bucks a jug, I'll give it a try.
I won't pay $37.00 a jug just to try any oil, though.
I have plenty of cheap or free synthetics on hand and see no reason to pay a huge premium just to try something different.
I don't really care about the dye job.
I've used two oils that were obviously dyed.
One was GC and the other was VR1 syn.
Motor oil as blended is neither green, blue nor purple, nor is ATF naturally red.
Originally Posted By: ShotGun429
I take care of a fleet of 110 V6 racing engines, Owners can choose their own motor oil and weight as long as its syn. After rebuilding This fleet since 1986 to present, and all logs kept with each engine, (3.3 million miles total fleet) im never really impressed with RP results....not bad, just not great bearing wear,and cly bore wear. spend your oil money elsewhere.
Careful there ShotGun429, you just contradicted deven RP-fanboy "engune smoother" guy with real facts, not allowed here.
I take care of a fleet of 110 V6 racing engines, Owners can choose their own motor oil and weight as long as its syn. After rebuilding This fleet since 1986 to present, and all logs kept with each engine, (3.3 million miles total fleet) im never really impressed with RP results....not bad, just not great bearing wear,and cly bore wear. spend your oil money elsewhere.
Careful there ShotGun429, you just contradicted deven RP-fanboy "engune smoother" guy with real facts, not allowed here.
I don't hate it, but like most here i wont pay the premium. I will buy it if it is on sale.
By looking at PQIA tests I believe it is a great lube in SN formulation as it looks like they are using the same add pack as Valvoline uses in Synpower, which is my preferred lube. I like Sodium add-pack oils unlike many here. I simply cannot justify paying extra for a purple bottle and the purple dye. If it was priced at $22 a 5qt jug like Synpower is i may use it. Until then im really not interested in having a lighter wallet.
By looking at PQIA tests I believe it is a great lube in SN formulation as it looks like they are using the same add pack as Valvoline uses in Synpower, which is my preferred lube. I like Sodium add-pack oils unlike many here. I simply cannot justify paying extra for a purple bottle and the purple dye. If it was priced at $22 a 5qt jug like Synpower is i may use it. Until then im really not interested in having a lighter wallet.
Originally Posted By: ShotGun429
I take care of a fleet of 110 V6 racing engines, Owners can choose their own motor oil and weight as long as its syn. After rebuilding This fleet since 1986 to present, and all logs kept with each engine, (3.3 million miles total fleet) im never really impressed with RP results....not bad, just not great bearing wear,and cly bore wear. spend your oil money elsewhere.
Which looked the best on teardown. Inquiring minds want to know.
So much noise. If I want to waste $30 every 2 years for tinted oil... Well that's my decision.
I bet some of you smoke that much dope in a few days.
I take care of a fleet of 110 V6 racing engines, Owners can choose their own motor oil and weight as long as its syn. After rebuilding This fleet since 1986 to present, and all logs kept with each engine, (3.3 million miles total fleet) im never really impressed with RP results....not bad, just not great bearing wear,and cly bore wear. spend your oil money elsewhere.
Which looked the best on teardown. Inquiring minds want to know.
So much noise. If I want to waste $30 every 2 years for tinted oil... Well that's my decision.
I bet some of you smoke that much dope in a few days.
Originally Posted By: fredfactory
Originally Posted By: ShotGun429
I take care of a fleet of 110 V6 racing engines, Owners can choose their own motor oil and weight as long as its syn. After rebuilding This fleet since 1986 to present, and all logs kept with each engine, (3.3 million miles total fleet) im never really impressed with RP results....not bad, just not great bearing wear,and cly bore wear. spend your oil money elsewhere.
Careful there ShotGun429, you just contradicted deven RP-fanboy "engune smoother" guy with real facts, not allowed here.
I own 3 speed shops in the state of Rhode Island and this is my fourth year owning them. I have seen with my own eyes what RP is capable of doing first hand. In the 4 years we have torn down many an engines on RP, way over 110. Go onto amazon.com and read how many people comment on the smoothness of their engine after a change to RP. Granted that not all reviews are true but with dozens and dozens of reviews claiming this butt dyno phenomenon, I am not alone. At least I am not on my 4th screen name on BITOG like you are.
Originally Posted By: ShotGun429
I take care of a fleet of 110 V6 racing engines, Owners can choose their own motor oil and weight as long as its syn. After rebuilding This fleet since 1986 to present, and all logs kept with each engine, (3.3 million miles total fleet) im never really impressed with RP results....not bad, just not great bearing wear,and cly bore wear. spend your oil money elsewhere.
Careful there ShotGun429, you just contradicted deven RP-fanboy "engune smoother" guy with real facts, not allowed here.
I own 3 speed shops in the state of Rhode Island and this is my fourth year owning them. I have seen with my own eyes what RP is capable of doing first hand. In the 4 years we have torn down many an engines on RP, way over 110. Go onto amazon.com and read how many people comment on the smoothness of their engine after a change to RP. Granted that not all reviews are true but with dozens and dozens of reviews claiming this butt dyno phenomenon, I am not alone. At least I am not on my 4th screen name on BITOG like you are.
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Hello,
1) A friend took an in depth course at his place of employment. It was a heavily industrial setting.
He was taught R.P. was simply not worth it.
2) I called R.P. and the rep told me Mobil provided their base stocks. Heaven only knows what quality levels of product Mobil can produce.
3) Heavens! I'm not qualified to respond. I used R.P. 5w30 in my '99 V70 and it quieted right up.
The same product didn't effect my '02 with the same engine.
1) A friend took an in depth course at his place of employment. It was a heavily industrial setting.
He was taught R.P. was simply not worth it.
2) I called R.P. and the rep told me Mobil provided their base stocks. Heaven only knows what quality levels of product Mobil can produce.
3) Heavens! I'm not qualified to respond. I used R.P. 5w30 in my '99 V70 and it quieted right up.
The same product didn't effect my '02 with the same engine.
Originally Posted By: deven
I own 3 speed shops in the state of Rhode Island
Hey, You know anyone who can weld up a Rodeck 350+ at a reasonable price?
I own 3 speed shops in the state of Rhode Island
Hey, You know anyone who can weld up a Rodeck 350+ at a reasonable price?
I certainly don't hate it, it's just that there are a number of oils that are as good and maybe even better (i.e. M1 0W40) that are substantially cheaper.
Originally Posted By: deven
Why do you hate it?
I gotta ask... why do you care...? You like it, great... use it. Somebody else hates it, fine, they"ll use something else...
Some like M1, others like Pennzoil or Castrol or Redline or Motul ... and that's ok. It's your money... buy what you want.
And realistically, most motor oil is more alike than it is different... it's the MARKETING that sells oil...!
Why do you hate it?
I gotta ask... why do you care...? You like it, great... use it. Somebody else hates it, fine, they"ll use something else...
Some like M1, others like Pennzoil or Castrol or Redline or Motul ... and that's ok. It's your money... buy what you want.
And realistically, most motor oil is more alike than it is different... it's the MARKETING that sells oil...!
Originally Posted By: deven
Originally Posted By: fredfactory
Originally Posted By: ShotGun429
I take care of a fleet of 110 V6 racing engines, Owners can choose their own motor oil and weight as long as its syn. After rebuilding This fleet since 1986 to present, and all logs kept with each engine, (3.3 million miles total fleet) im never really impressed with RP results....not bad, just not great bearing wear,and cly bore wear. spend your oil money elsewhere.
Careful there ShotGun429, you just contradicted deven RP-fanboy "engune smoother" guy with real facts, not allowed here.
Mr. Fred Flinstone, I own 3 speed shops in the state of Rhode Island and this is my fourth year owning them. I have seen with my own eyes what RP is capable of doing first hand. In the 4 years we have torn down many an engines on RP, way over 110. Go onto amazon.com and read how many people comment on the smoothness of their engine after a change to RP. Granted that not all reviews are true but with dozens and dozens of reviews claiming this butt dyno phenomenon, I am not alone. At least I am not on my 4th screen name on BITOG like you are.
Since you have at least 110 teardowns can you share some comparative data? For example do you have wear rates for RP vs another major oil like M1? It would be very interesting to see this data.(I'm truly interested, not hating here)
Originally Posted By: fredfactory
Originally Posted By: ShotGun429
I take care of a fleet of 110 V6 racing engines, Owners can choose their own motor oil and weight as long as its syn. After rebuilding This fleet since 1986 to present, and all logs kept with each engine, (3.3 million miles total fleet) im never really impressed with RP results....not bad, just not great bearing wear,and cly bore wear. spend your oil money elsewhere.
Careful there ShotGun429, you just contradicted deven RP-fanboy "engune smoother" guy with real facts, not allowed here.
Mr. Fred Flinstone, I own 3 speed shops in the state of Rhode Island and this is my fourth year owning them. I have seen with my own eyes what RP is capable of doing first hand. In the 4 years we have torn down many an engines on RP, way over 110. Go onto amazon.com and read how many people comment on the smoothness of their engine after a change to RP. Granted that not all reviews are true but with dozens and dozens of reviews claiming this butt dyno phenomenon, I am not alone. At least I am not on my 4th screen name on BITOG like you are.
Since you have at least 110 teardowns can you share some comparative data? For example do you have wear rates for RP vs another major oil like M1? It would be very interesting to see this data.(I'm truly interested, not hating here)
Originally Posted By: turtlevette
Originally Posted By: deven
I own 3 speed shops in the state of Rhode Island
Hey, You know anyone who can weld up a Rodeck 350+ at a reasonable price?
If I remember correctly the Rodeck 350+ is out of production and rightfully so because honestly it is [censored]. You'll have a hard time finding any reputable place to weld it because they break often. I can ask around but it would be southern mass border or Rhode Island.
Originally Posted By: deven
I own 3 speed shops in the state of Rhode Island
Hey, You know anyone who can weld up a Rodeck 350+ at a reasonable price?
If I remember correctly the Rodeck 350+ is out of production and rightfully so because honestly it is [censored]. You'll have a hard time finding any reputable place to weld it because they break often. I can ask around but it would be southern mass border or Rhode Island.
Originally Posted By: deven
If I remember correctly the Rodeck 350+ is out of production and rightfully so because honestly it is [censored]. You'll have a hard time finding any reputable place to weld it because they break often. I can ask around but it would be southern mass border or Rhode Island.
Understood. And that's why it's still collecting dust. A stupid impulse purchase.
If I remember correctly the Rodeck 350+ is out of production and rightfully so because honestly it is [censored]. You'll have a hard time finding any reputable place to weld it because they break often. I can ask around but it would be southern mass border or Rhode Island.
Understood. And that's why it's still collecting dust. A stupid impulse purchase.
Originally Posted By: Nate1979
Originally Posted By: deven
Originally Posted By: fredfactory
Originally Posted By: ShotGun429
I take care of a fleet of 110 V6 racing engines, Owners can choose their own motor oil and weight as long as its syn. After rebuilding This fleet since 1986 to present, and all logs kept with each engine, (3.3 million miles total fleet) im never really impressed with RP results....not bad, just not great bearing wear,and cly bore wear. spend your oil money elsewhere.
Careful there ShotGun429, you just contradicted deven RP-fanboy "engune smoother" guy with real facts, not allowed here.
Mr. Fred Flinstone, I own 3 speed shops in the state of Rhode Island and this is my fourth year owning them. I have seen with my own eyes what RP is capable of doing first hand. In the 4 years we have torn down many an engines on RP, way over 110. Go onto amazon.com and read how many people comment on the smoothness of their engine after a change to RP. Granted that not all reviews are true but with dozens and dozens of reviews claiming this butt dyno phenomenon, I am not alone. At least I am not on my 4th screen name on BITOG like you are.
Since you have at least 110 teardowns can you share some comparative data? For example do you have wear rates for RP vs another major oil like M1? It would be very interesting to see this data.(I'm truly interested, not hating here)
It doesn't matter what kind of data I have because its never compared to the same block on another engine. I mean I have had 2 identical engines with different oils and one did better than other but because they are customer engines its impossible to get "comparative" data between 2 oils. What we do get is a trend of one oil...ie most engines torn down on RP have very little wear etc..
Originally Posted By: deven
Originally Posted By: fredfactory
Originally Posted By: ShotGun429
I take care of a fleet of 110 V6 racing engines, Owners can choose their own motor oil and weight as long as its syn. After rebuilding This fleet since 1986 to present, and all logs kept with each engine, (3.3 million miles total fleet) im never really impressed with RP results....not bad, just not great bearing wear,and cly bore wear. spend your oil money elsewhere.
Careful there ShotGun429, you just contradicted deven RP-fanboy "engune smoother" guy with real facts, not allowed here.
Mr. Fred Flinstone, I own 3 speed shops in the state of Rhode Island and this is my fourth year owning them. I have seen with my own eyes what RP is capable of doing first hand. In the 4 years we have torn down many an engines on RP, way over 110. Go onto amazon.com and read how many people comment on the smoothness of their engine after a change to RP. Granted that not all reviews are true but with dozens and dozens of reviews claiming this butt dyno phenomenon, I am not alone. At least I am not on my 4th screen name on BITOG like you are.
Since you have at least 110 teardowns can you share some comparative data? For example do you have wear rates for RP vs another major oil like M1? It would be very interesting to see this data.(I'm truly interested, not hating here)
It doesn't matter what kind of data I have because its never compared to the same block on another engine. I mean I have had 2 identical engines with different oils and one did better than other but because they are customer engines its impossible to get "comparative" data between 2 oils. What we do get is a trend of one oil...ie most engines torn down on RP have very little wear etc..
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