Fluid film softening frame undercoating

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Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Its drying out quite nicely today there were several rust spots in that area that are hardly visible. I need to hit that chassis mount must have missed ir.
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What was the temperature when you sprayed it? I'm itching to re-shoot two of my vehicles. The temp is finally right but I won't have the time until the end of the week, just in time for rain again!
 
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Its drying out quite nicely today there were several rust spots in that area that are hardly visible. I need to hit that chassis mount must have missed ir.
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What was the temperature when you sprayed it? I'm itching to re-shoot two of my vehicles. The temp is finally right but I won't have the time until the end of the week, just in time for rain again!

The temperature when I first sprayed it was high 30's low 40's. Less than a week later it got into the fifties with a huge rainstorm. And it really hasn't been past 40 since then. I reapplied a couple of spots Sunday it was high 30's again.
 
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: pbm
I sprayed my new Escape with FF and some got on (1) rubber bushing....will it have any negative (petroleum) effect on the bushing?


No, no problem at all.




Thanks DP...
 
Originally Posted By: Chris B.
where do you guys get your Fluid Film?


Easiest place I found was Lowe's, it was in the tool section on an endcap in the back with some other specialty chemicals.
 
Yeah I get mine at Lowe's. I talked to somebody there they said it's one of the best selling products they can't keep it on the shelf. A couple cans here a couple cans there its addicting I can't stop spraying lol.

Buy the $2 handle for the spray cans, and there is a $17 fluid film 360 degree hose to get inside the frame rails doors and stuff like that I would suggest both of those
 
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Originally Posted By: Chris B.
where do you guys get your Fluid Film?


I ordered a 5-gallon pail online. And an undercoating gun to shoot it with.

The rattle-can FF is a lot thinner than the FF that comes in a non-aerosol form. The non-aerosol FF sprays nicely, though.
 
Originally Posted By: sciphi
Originally Posted By: Chris B.
where do you guys get your Fluid Film?


I ordered a 5-gallon pail online. And an undercoating gun to shoot it with.

The rattle-can FF is a lot thinner than the FF that comes in a non-aerosol form. The non-aerosol FF sprays nicely, though.

How do you intend on getting under there with the gun? Do you have a lift?
 
Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Originally Posted By: sciphi
Originally Posted By: Chris B.
where do you guys get your Fluid Film?


I ordered a 5-gallon pail online. And an undercoating gun to shoot it with.

The rattle-can FF is a lot thinner than the FF that comes in a non-aerosol form. The non-aerosol FF sprays nicely, though.

How do you intend on getting under there with the gun? Do you have a lift?


I was able to get under with a gun using ramps. A lift would make it a whole lot easier though.
 
Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Originally Posted By: sciphi
Originally Posted By: Chris B.
where do you guys get your Fluid Film?


I ordered a 5-gallon pail online. And an undercoating gun to shoot it with.

The rattle-can FF is a lot thinner than the FF that comes in a non-aerosol form. The non-aerosol FF sprays nicely, though.

How do you intend on getting under there with the gun? Do you have a lift?


I wish I had a lift! Just a jack that can lift 18" and a set of jackstands in the garage. Set one end of the car up in a safe manner, shoot it with the gun, dive under to get any crevices that can't be accessed from near the rockers, and move on to the other side. Repeat for the opposite end of the car.

With the wands that were also purchased, the gun can usually stay out from under the car while still getting everything underneath. I've done three cars like this so far, and it works a lot better than making my fingers numb from holding rattle can spray nozzles. Which I did for 4 years previously, and was glad to abandon.
 
Originally Posted By: sciphi

With the wands that were also purchased, the gun can usually stay out from under the car while still getting everything underneath. I've done three cars like this so far, and it works a lot better than making my fingers numb from holding rattle can spray nozzles. Which I did for 4 years previously, and was glad to abandon.


You're right, I did the rattle can deal a few times myself. Nothing beats a compressor and an undercoating gun with the wands, and you get a better job.

I plan on doing another coat soon, using the gun to get all the crevices, inside the doors and rocker panels, etc. When that's done I want to shoot the underside with my airless sprayer. I think that will really get a nice coat on it.

I'm looking for some kind of plastic, maybe 4' wide and 2 mil thick in a roll I want wrap the Jeep with so I get zero over spray on it. I masked it off last year with 3M masking film and tossed a nice soft drop cloth over it and had nothing at all to clean up. I want to try all plastic this time, just wrap it around and shoot it.
 
I got some overspray on the paint it attracts a little dirt but it wipes right off with no damage to the paint. What's interesting is anywhere that's rusted continues to get darker and darker. And now I feel the softening of the undercoating is actually a good thing because it's getting rid of any air gaps between the undercoating an the metal which appear to be many more than I realized. The the fluid film causes any loose undercoating to fall off exposing metal in early phases of rust that I would not have seen. Overall I'm pleased with how dark it's getting. I'm tempted to use one of my undercoating cans right over the top of it and see what it does in a few areas. If it dies it or blends with it.
 
I don't think softening of the undercoating is bad either. In fact it is probably good as you mentioned. I've seen that darkening of rust as well on an old Chevy I had that I shot with a product similar to Amsoil HD metal protector.
 
Originally Posted By: Chris B.
How long does one application of Fluid Film last? How often do you reapply.


People I know who use it apply it once a year, some do it in the spring and again in the fall. Others do an inspection and touch up as needed. It is not a long lasting permanent coating, it requires reapplication, or touch ups at the very least. HTH
 
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: Chris B.
How long does one application of Fluid Film last? How often do you reapply.


People I know who use it apply it once a year, some do it in the spring and again in the fall. Others do an inspection and touch up as needed. It is not a long lasting permanent coating, it requires reapplication, or touch ups at the very least. HTH


Demarpaint - have you applied FF using the FF air gun and the gallon yet? I think the answer to this question may lie in the application method. I keep finding areas I missed and doing touch-ups using aerosol cans. The cans are great but I gotta crawl way under to get the spray into certain areas. If you're not reasonably close being an aerosol it's lost in the wind.

But the other side is cost I'm up to 6 cans under there now plus the $2 spray handle its approximately $60. I think you're over $100 with that FF kit before you spray anything. But now that you own the sprayer and using gallons it may be cheaper in the long run. Let us know how much of that gallon you use for a heavy coat and if it required touch-ups with aerosol cans. Before and after pics would be nice if you can do that
 
Mild winter this year, but the underside of my truck still has plenty of fluid film visible. Some places have developed that nice, durable dirt/grease film that FF is known for, but mostly its still visibly wet. Very impressed with that as last year it did not hold up as well (MUCH harsher weather, though).

Also, there is no salt build up or staining noted; I can't say for sure if thats because its rinsed up driving in wet weather or if you just can't see it against the "wet" fluid film.
 
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