If your looking for a great off the shelf oil with great ZDDP and detergent/dispersants VR1 is a great choice. VR1 conventional has 1300 PPM of Phos and 1400 PPM of Zinc along with 2000 PPM of Calcium and 490 PPM of sodium a well rounded oil for street use. I use it in the 4.0L Jeep and it purrs like a kitten. Not to mention its priced really good for a ZDDP fortified oil you don't have to run boutique oils at boutique prices to get the protection your flat tappet cams need.
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This may sound goofy, but I used the Synthetic version in my Cub Cadet V-twin and it was smooth as glass.
Why you say that? Just knowledge of a product not trying to sell anything just saying.
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Why you say that? Just knowledge of a product not trying to sell anything just saying.
1. Because you have a grand total of 13 posts and just joined the forum this month.
2. Your name is "VR1" and you are hawking Valvoline VR-1 motor oil
3. Your signature line also has something about Valvoline oil in it
That's why.
Some might say "troll"
Me? I mostly agree with you.
Why you say that? Just knowledge of a product not trying to sell anything just saying.
1. Because you have a grand total of 13 posts and just joined the forum this month.
2. Your name is "VR1" and you are hawking Valvoline VR-1 motor oil
3. Your signature line also has something about Valvoline oil in it
That's why.
Some might say "troll"
Me? I mostly agree with you.
Don't sweat the the guy too hard, we do use Valvoline products after all and we do know that the VR-1 is a solid performer,we could just consider this thread a statement of the obvious.
Hey VR1-why does it have such a low viscosity? There's a used oil analysis on here in a Scion Tc for all of 1300 miles, and it looked awful close to shot...
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/valvoline-vr1-10w30-1219-mi-scion-tc.155013/
Also, could you tell your boss to put out some more free after rebate deals?
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/valvoline-vr1-10w30-1219-mi-scion-tc.155013/
Also, could you tell your boss to put out some more free after rebate deals?
Originally Posted By: addyguy
You sound and post like a bloody salesperson....
I'm a bloody sales person too; that's why I keep a first aid kit in the car.
You sound and post like a bloody salesperson....
I'm a bloody sales person too; that's why I keep a first aid kit in the car.
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You sound and post like a bloody salesperson....
As though there was something wrong with salespeople?
We are all selling something. Sounds like you are selling a bad attitude about salespeople!
You sound and post like a bloody salesperson....
As though there was something wrong with salespeople?
We are all selling something. Sounds like you are selling a bad attitude about salespeople!
I kinda thought with the VR1 user id, he might like the Valvoline product. No sweat with me; I recommend VR1 often for people on this board who are asking what oil they should put in their slider-follower engines. It's available at many different parts stores. My only problem is that most stores only stock the 20w50 grade, and not 10w30.
Then again, I think the Brad Penn oils may be a little better...
Then again, I think the Brad Penn oils may be a little better...
Well if it is the synthetic version VR1 saphire blue colored one then he shoudn't be running that oil it doesn't have enough detergents and doesn't have any dispersants only lubricants for one and its a true racing oil so its not designed for 3,000 mile oci's at all much less daily driver use. In fact per Valvoline tech that VR1 is only for a few track uses because of its design. If you want to run the VR1 that can go 3,000 miles then you need to run the VR1 conventional in the gray bottle. That one is called VR1 because it can still be SN rated with higher levels of ZDDP just the loop hole is the racing name. But, in any case from what blackstone stated everything looked great just slightly low viscosity and who is to say that 20 buck test is the most accurate of a used oil analysis? For a real meat and potatoes test you need to look at spending a few more dollars. Just my two cents. No hard feelings at all just stating.
Originally Posted By: VR1
Well if it is the synthetic version VR1 saphire blue colored one then he shoudn't be running that oil it doesn't have enough detergents and doesn't have any dispersants only lubricants for one and its a true racing oil so its not designed for 3,000 mile oci's at all much less daily driver use. In fact per Valvoline tech that VR1 is only for a few track uses because of its design. If you want to run the VR1 that can go 3,000 miles then you need to run the VR1 conventional in the gray bottle. That one is called VR1 because it can still be SN rated with higher levels of ZDDP just the loop hole is the racing name. But, in any case from what blackstone stated everything looked great just slightly low viscosity and who is to say that 20 buck test is the most accurate of a used oil analysis? For a real meat and potatoes test you need to look at spending a few more dollars. Just my two cents. No hard feelings at all just stating.
Are you serious? There was recently a free after rebate offer for the VR1 synthetic that's blue in color and definitely not a true racing oil. It can also easily be used for 3k OCIs. Thank you for the terrible mis-information.
Product listing: http://www.valvoline.com/products/consumer-products/motor-oil/racing-motor-oil/8
What is amazing about your misinformation is you said that it doesn't have dispersants and he shouldnt be running it when you looked at the used oil analysis and it's obvious that it has dispersants. Link
Magnesium and calcium are both dispersants.
Well if it is the synthetic version VR1 saphire blue colored one then he shoudn't be running that oil it doesn't have enough detergents and doesn't have any dispersants only lubricants for one and its a true racing oil so its not designed for 3,000 mile oci's at all much less daily driver use. In fact per Valvoline tech that VR1 is only for a few track uses because of its design. If you want to run the VR1 that can go 3,000 miles then you need to run the VR1 conventional in the gray bottle. That one is called VR1 because it can still be SN rated with higher levels of ZDDP just the loop hole is the racing name. But, in any case from what blackstone stated everything looked great just slightly low viscosity and who is to say that 20 buck test is the most accurate of a used oil analysis? For a real meat and potatoes test you need to look at spending a few more dollars. Just my two cents. No hard feelings at all just stating.
Are you serious? There was recently a free after rebate offer for the VR1 synthetic that's blue in color and definitely not a true racing oil. It can also easily be used for 3k OCIs. Thank you for the terrible mis-information.
Product listing: http://www.valvoline.com/products/consumer-products/motor-oil/racing-motor-oil/8
What is amazing about your misinformation is you said that it doesn't have dispersants and he shouldnt be running it when you looked at the used oil analysis and it's obvious that it has dispersants. Link
Magnesium and calcium are both dispersants.
cmf not to step on your toes any but, I wasn't aware of a street safe VR1 synthetic it must be something very rare or has just came onto the market in the last few months furthermore I would not put full trust in a lab for a used oil analysis just because there is always room for human error it happens everyday and I see it on a daily basis. Again, though no hard feelings just stating the obvious. I like conventional oils myself better and for the money you can't go wrong with a good conventional oil. Not bashing synthetic but, unless your driving a 500 plus horsepower vehicle its really just wasteful to use it. I have had three Jeep two of which made it well past 200k on dino there whole life and the third of which has 85k and shows no signs of stopping anytime soon. Just for correction too Magnesium and Calcium is more so a detergent whereas sodium would play a bigger role in holding dirt in suspension.
Realize that flat tappet cams are in many modern OHC systems.
It's highly loaded systems and break in where problems occur.
It's either a roller or a flat tappet -not much else in the market.
It's highly loaded systems and break in where problems occur.
It's either a roller or a flat tappet -not much else in the market.
Well OHC uses roller cam or followers usually a OHV will use flat tappets but, the exception to that are a few engines one of which is the 3.8L V6 chrysler minivan engine with roller followers. Boy what a turd compared to the 4.0L in the Jeep.
To mix a couple of metaphors, "Show me the beef!"
So far, all I have heard is opinion and marketing fluff.
So far, all I have heard is opinion and marketing fluff.
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