Filters have come full circle

[Mike_dup1]

Used to be cartridge design, then the spin on and now back to cartridge design. Several owners I spoke to who have changed oil on this engine say it as clean as you can get. No mess with the filter like with a spin-on.

Also says on the box; Enviromentally friendly easy on/off

Thought you might be interested in the filter the comes on the 2005 (and prior yrs) GM 3.6L-255hp VVT (CTS) all aluminum engine.

[ May 27, 2005, 04:18 PM: Message edited by: Mike ]

 

[Winston]

I bet Champ will not make a filter for that application. They could never get the pleats even enough to pass the owners inspection.

 

[Filter guy]

Winston, didn't know AC Delco had a plant in Mexico but Champ does..

I'll try to find out next week..

 

[labman]

quote:

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Originally posted by Winston:
I bet Champ will not make a filter for that application. They could never get the pleats even enough to pass the owners inspection.

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Next time you are in Wal-Mart, look at an ST 9018. Also likely the STP SO 9018 I used was champ made.

Better yet, pull a CH 9018 out of the wall of orange and look at it. Also look at the price. I have been buying L 15436's for $3-$4.

[ May 27, 2005, 07:42 PM: Message edited by: labman ]

 

[Ray H]

"Evenness" of pleat spacing has NO more effect on filtration ability any more than presuming that "Cleanliness is next to Godliness".

 

[pscholte]

Ray,

That may be true but I am an even pleat freak

...and I don't WANT to change!

 

[XS650]

quote:

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Originally posted by Ray H:
"Evenness" of pleat spacing has NO more effect on filtration ability any more than presuming that "Cleanliness is next to Godliness".

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Fortunately there's Fram and Champ for people who want filters with crappy looking internals.

BTW, for engine oil, cleanliness is next to godliness.

 

[Winston]

I knew I could get people riled up with my comment. However, Ray, I love your insight on the coolant issues, but I do believe that pleat spacing makes a difference.

More oil will go through the widest pleat, and that is bad.

FG, they had to go to Mexico to get the pleat spacing even?

 

[Mike_dup1]

This filter was about $4.25 (+-) at local AC Delco retailer. I commented to him about the Made in Mexico and he said that GM has a huge assembly complex down there and thats where these are made?

It for a pricey car so I wanted to stick with OEM parts. Car came with Mobil 1.

 

[y_p_w]

quote:

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Originally posted by Mike:
This filter was about $4.25 (+-) at local AC Delco retailer. I commented to him about the Made in Mexico and he said that GM has a huge assembly complex down there and thats where these are made?

It for a pricey car so I wanted to stick with OEM parts. Car came with Mobil 1.

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GM may assemble cars in Mexico, I don't believe they have any parts operations there other than distribution. Strangely enough, General Motors de Mexico markets Fiat. That filter was probably made for GM by Champ.

http://www.gm.com/company/corp_info/global_operations/north_america/mexi.html
http://www.gm.com/company/corp_info/global_operations/north_america/mexi_ramos.html
http://www.gm.com/company/corp_info/global_operations/north_america/mexi_silao.html
http://www.gm.com/company/corp_info/global_operations/north_america/mexi_toluca.html
http://www.gm.com/company/corp_info/global_operations/north_america/mexi_toluca_spo.html

 

[Mike_dup1]

They do in fact have parts manf. there. I have seen many GM only parts made in mexico, wire harnesses, electrical components etc. I got a new 5.0L engine for my 1992 truck last fall that was made in mexico. If they can make engines, oil filters can't be much harder.

 

[Mike_dup1]

I did some price checking just for the heck of it.

PF2129 GM part 25177917

From AC Delco retailer List $4.25 [Made in Mexico]
From GM Parts List $6.56 [on order - TBD]
Fram CH8765 Walmart $8.56 [made in Korea, looks shoddy compared to AC model]