It doesn't even look like those Lexus ones line up right!
Fake exhaust finishers
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Yes, I would expect more out of the performance sedan flagship of the 'epitome of perfection' marque.
A whole new world of "cutting corners"...so perhaps the powers that be have changed the definition of the word "perfection" ?
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
It doesn't even look like those Lexus ones line up right!
LOL I know, that's the worst part
It doesn't even look like those Lexus ones line up right!
LOL I know, that's the worst part
Originally Posted By: silverrat
Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Yes, I would expect more out of the performance sedan flagship of the 'epitome of perfection' marque.
Your just looking for a reason to bash an automaker?
No, but I refuse to worship the marque as A LOT do, just because some abjectly snooty/elitist sounding announcer on a TV ad proclaims it to be "perfection" (or pursuing such).
YES, many manufacturers do the fake finishers now, but I've NEVER heard them claim to be the 'gold standard' as Lex and Toy do so vociferously, all the while having theirs totally misaligned.
Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Yes, I would expect more out of the performance sedan flagship of the 'epitome of perfection' marque.
Your just looking for a reason to bash an automaker?
No, but I refuse to worship the marque as A LOT do, just because some abjectly snooty/elitist sounding announcer on a TV ad proclaims it to be "perfection" (or pursuing such).
YES, many manufacturers do the fake finishers now, but I've NEVER heard them claim to be the 'gold standard' as Lex and Toy do so vociferously, all the while having theirs totally misaligned.
You all have not seen anything yet. We just started building Escalades with a new dual exhaust option. In my opinion, I am embarassed by it. The main pipe from the cat goes into a muffler that sits where the spare tire would go and then splits out to 2 tailpipes that meet at the rear bumper fascia. On the fascia are 2 plastic chrome square cut outs that the pipes just meet up with. Massive amount of space all around where the pipes meet the bumper. Looks awful. Nobody would listen however. So, you pay for the dual exhaust and then loose the spare tire. Makes no sense. To make matters even worse, there is no horsepower increase and the dual exhaust model is quieter than the single one and missing the unique 6.2L V8 growl sound. Total "fail" to me.
I know I shouldn't be complaining...but you all know I'm open minded even with the products I build.
I know I shouldn't be complaining...but you all know I'm open minded even with the products I build.
Originally Posted By: GMBoy
You all have not seen anything yet. We just started building Escalades with a new dual exhaust option. In my opinion, I am embarassed by it. The main pipe from the cat goes into a muffler that sits where the spare tire would go and then splits out to 2 tailpipes that meet at the rear bumper fascia. On the fascia are 2 plastic chrome square cut outs that the pipes just meet up with. Massive amount of space all around where the pipes meet the bumper. Looks awful. Nobody would listen however. So, you pay for the dual exhaust and then loose the spare tire. Makes no sense. To make matters even worse, there is no horsepower increase and the dual exhaust model is quieter than the single one and missing the unique 6.2L V8 growl sound. Total "fail" to me.
I know I shouldn't be complaining...but you all know I'm open minded even with the products I build.
Y-pipe "dual" exhaust is a fail any way you look at it. My mom's Fusion is that way. Worthless extra weight. To loose the spare for such a setup is reaching into epic fail.
You all have not seen anything yet. We just started building Escalades with a new dual exhaust option. In my opinion, I am embarassed by it. The main pipe from the cat goes into a muffler that sits where the spare tire would go and then splits out to 2 tailpipes that meet at the rear bumper fascia. On the fascia are 2 plastic chrome square cut outs that the pipes just meet up with. Massive amount of space all around where the pipes meet the bumper. Looks awful. Nobody would listen however. So, you pay for the dual exhaust and then loose the spare tire. Makes no sense. To make matters even worse, there is no horsepower increase and the dual exhaust model is quieter than the single one and missing the unique 6.2L V8 growl sound. Total "fail" to me.
I know I shouldn't be complaining...but you all know I'm open minded even with the products I build.
Y-pipe "dual" exhaust is a fail any way you look at it. My mom's Fusion is that way. Worthless extra weight. To loose the spare for such a setup is reaching into epic fail.
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Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Originally Posted By: silverrat
Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Yes, I would expect more out of the performance sedan flagship of the 'epitome of perfection' marque.
Your just looking for a reason to bash an automaker?
No, but I refuse to worship the marque as A LOT do, just because some abjectly snooty/elitist sounding announcer on a TV ad proclaims it to be "perfection" (or pursuing such).
YES, many manufacturers do the fake finishers now, but I've NEVER heard them claim to be the 'gold standard' as Lex and Toy do so vociferously, all the while having theirs totally misaligned.
It's just a commercial. It's just an exhaust finisher. You dont have to worship anything, just leave it alone.
Originally Posted By: silverrat
Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Yes, I would expect more out of the performance sedan flagship of the 'epitome of perfection' marque.
Your just looking for a reason to bash an automaker?
No, but I refuse to worship the marque as A LOT do, just because some abjectly snooty/elitist sounding announcer on a TV ad proclaims it to be "perfection" (or pursuing such).
YES, many manufacturers do the fake finishers now, but I've NEVER heard them claim to be the 'gold standard' as Lex and Toy do so vociferously, all the while having theirs totally misaligned.
It's just a commercial. It's just an exhaust finisher. You dont have to worship anything, just leave it alone.
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Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
Y-pipe "dual" exhaust is a fail any way you look at it.
It depends on what you are doing with it. Some cars run a Y out in front to a singal back to a dual, but the middle pipe is much larger and runs straight down the middle for clearance issues.
Y-pipe "dual" exhaust is a fail any way you look at it.
It depends on what you are doing with it. Some cars run a Y out in front to a singal back to a dual, but the middle pipe is much larger and runs straight down the middle for clearance issues.
I never noticed that either. Now it will bug me.. I guess that is one way manufactureres dont have to worry about the tialpipes lining up perfectly every time.
The one on my car goes straight through the bumper, with no finisher in there.
Another, perhaps more practical perspective on these "things": back in the early 90s, I was driving my bought-new, cared for 88 Civic LX sedan. The car was TOTALLY corrosion-free -- except for that cute pipe finisher that in this case, was actually bolted to the end of the pipe. It rusted out quickly and badly. I noticed one day that the end of my pipe, finisher and all, was hanging by a slim thread of surviving unrusted metal.
Well, this happened when I was in the middle of taking a few years off from real life to go back to school, so I had ZERO extra money with which to fix ANYTHING on my old Civic. So I sawed the pipe off about an inch or two ahead of the last sign of corrosion (about a foot behind the bumper). Then, skrimping, I went to Pep-Boyz and, ironically, bought a cheap aftermarket finisher and a couple tubes of high-temp putty, and grafted the new part on to what was left of my pipe. It looked horribly goofy, but for less than ten bucks, I made a solution that lasted another five years and put the exhaust where the engineers meant for it to go.
Anyway, my conclusion is that bare, stainless steel pipes are always best. They provide maximum function with minimum complication (and expense). Beware.
Well, this happened when I was in the middle of taking a few years off from real life to go back to school, so I had ZERO extra money with which to fix ANYTHING on my old Civic. So I sawed the pipe off about an inch or two ahead of the last sign of corrosion (about a foot behind the bumper). Then, skrimping, I went to Pep-Boyz and, ironically, bought a cheap aftermarket finisher and a couple tubes of high-temp putty, and grafted the new part on to what was left of my pipe. It looked horribly goofy, but for less than ten bucks, I made a solution that lasted another five years and put the exhaust where the engineers meant for it to go.
Anyway, my conclusion is that bare, stainless steel pipes are always best. They provide maximum function with minimum complication (and expense). Beware.
Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
The one on my car goes straight through the bumper, with no finisher in there.
That is MEAN looking!!
(Are those pipes 304 stainless?)
The one on my car goes straight through the bumper, with no finisher in there.
That is MEAN looking!!
(Are those pipes 304 stainless?)
Originally Posted By: ekpolk
Anyway, my conclusion is that bare, stainless steel pipes are always best. They provide maximum function with minimum complication (and expense).
AGREED!! (amazing, ain't it, that we agree on anything?
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Even though my 3.5" single turndown, tucked up out of sight, tailpipe IS 304 stainless (as is the rest of the whole 3.5" y-pipe back system), I still hit it with a couple of coats of Wurth satin black paint, just to make it that much LESS ostentatious, and TOTALLY ANTI-flatulence piped ricer.
Anyway, my conclusion is that bare, stainless steel pipes are always best. They provide maximum function with minimum complication (and expense).
AGREED!! (amazing, ain't it, that we agree on anything?
Even though my 3.5" single turndown, tucked up out of sight, tailpipe IS 304 stainless (as is the rest of the whole 3.5" y-pipe back system), I still hit it with a couple of coats of Wurth satin black paint, just to make it that much LESS ostentatious, and TOTALLY ANTI-flatulence piped ricer.
Originally Posted By: ls1mike
Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
Y-pipe "dual" exhaust is a fail any way you look at it.
It depends on what you are doing with it. Some cars run a Y out in front to a singal back to a dual, but the middle pipe is much larger and runs straight down the middle for clearance issues.
Yes, besides our rides have been shown to gain very little, if anything, from a true dual all the way back system. (Which is also almost impossible to fit without fully changing the panhard bar mounting points/location, and without said system contacting the unibody/driveshaft/torque arm at various points.
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Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
Y-pipe "dual" exhaust is a fail any way you look at it.
It depends on what you are doing with it. Some cars run a Y out in front to a singal back to a dual, but the middle pipe is much larger and runs straight down the middle for clearance issues.
Yes, besides our rides have been shown to gain very little, if anything, from a true dual all the way back system. (Which is also almost impossible to fit without fully changing the panhard bar mounting points/location, and without said system contacting the unibody/driveshaft/torque arm at various points.
Is this the same thing I see on the Lexus LS460? It seems similar. I didn't realize cars had things this fake on them.
Our Accord has the y-pipe at the back. The mid pipe is much larger but I'm still not sure it serves any real purpose. You can't even see the exhaust tips so I'm not quite sure why they did it other than maybe so they can sell twice as many mufflers?
I'm a big fan of exhaust pipes on performance cars and for everything else, I'd almost rather not see it.
Some of the pictures in this thread are hideous looking. They look like the sort of thing that would be in the Automotive aisle in Walmart or Pep Boys.
Our Accord has the y-pipe at the back. The mid pipe is much larger but I'm still not sure it serves any real purpose. You can't even see the exhaust tips so I'm not quite sure why they did it other than maybe so they can sell twice as many mufflers?
I'm a big fan of exhaust pipes on performance cars and for everything else, I'd almost rather not see it.
Some of the pictures in this thread are hideous looking. They look like the sort of thing that would be in the Automotive aisle in Walmart or Pep Boys.
I'm a big car guy and didn't even know what you were talking about. I never heard that term. That is one thing I guess I never even noticed which is strange since I have aftermarket exhaust on three of my vehicles.
I guess I will start looking now and I would be unhappy if I had a car designed like that.
Wayne
I guess I will start looking now and I would be unhappy if I had a car designed like that.
Wayne
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Originally Posted By: dailydriver
That is MEAN looking!!
(Are those pipes 304 stainless?)
Thanks!! Honestly not sure, everything on there is factory.
That is MEAN looking!!
(Are those pipes 304 stainless?)
Thanks!! Honestly not sure, everything on there is factory.
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