F 9/11 has scorched box-office records in it's North American debut, more than any other docco in history. In three days it smashed the record set previously by Bowling for Columbine over a nine month run. The big loser is Disney who refused to distribute the film and sold it to Miramax chiefs Harvey and Bob Weinstein. Released on 868 Canadian and American screens it far outpaced White Chicks released on 2000 screens and The Notebook. The movies success should see it expanded to 2000 screens by July 9th.
Fahrenheit 9/11 smashing box-office records
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This has to be the saddest stupid dumb idiotic thing I have ever heard. That mofo is making $$$ of a bunch of sheepheads to exploit bush for what he really isn't(notice all the lies) and trying to ruin the election. Sad thing is, ppl will believe what they here bc they are too dumb to realize that these type of ppl will screw you over once they get in power.
I don't believe that this film is a documentary in the strict sense. A documentary is akin to a history book, which at least tries to remain objective and non-partisan.
Moore is a politican commentator and activist, not a historian or reporter.
John
Moore is a politican commentator and activist, not a historian or reporter.
John
I think that Moore has found a good market to make money from. He utilizes and manipulates his resources to create a product that people consume in our capitalist society. He than uses his earnings to live in a multi-million dollar neighborhood and send his kid to a private school.
I don't like the fact that he calls his pieces documentaries, but I have a certain respect for the wizardry he displays to captivate a certain audience that may have limited resources, but are willing to make him rich.
I don't like the fact that he calls his pieces documentaries, but I have a certain respect for the wizardry he displays to captivate a certain audience that may have limited resources, but are willing to make him rich.
Fahrenheit 9/11 is not a documentary in the strict sense, It’s a documentary in the Joseph Goebbels sense.
Foreigners find it easy to criticize our actions to fight terrorism, as easy as these very same foreigners seem to forget the thousands of innocent Americans murdered on 9/11. But I know their problem; it’s a form of national testicular envy. (Although, I'm not sure we can help you with that particular problem.)
G’day mate!
Foreigners find it easy to criticize our actions to fight terrorism, as easy as these very same foreigners seem to forget the thousands of innocent Americans murdered on 9/11. But I know their problem; it’s a form of national testicular envy. (Although, I'm not sure we can help you with that particular problem.)
G’day mate!
Well don't aim that at me mate! I'm just reporting an aricle in our daily from a U.S correspondent. Strange how a few here, and I mean a few thank goodness can't see the wood for the trees. It appears the US population is taking to this film in droves, and you need to ask why?
I agree, it's an op-ed piece. There was an article in the NY Times that checked only the facts stated in the movie and said it was all true.
NY TIMES ARTICLE
you DO realize its only been one weekend, and he's only made 21 million. Just wait a few weeks and watch it fall like a rock.
I have in the past refused to log in to the very biased NY Times...but I did (of course telling them I'm accountant at some made up email address that makes under $20K year)....
Anyway - did you actually read the article???? Sure the first page has a statement saying the movie is sorta factual, but in the typical NY Times fashion the facts come out later in the article and just as we read in the other threads here on the same topic, the movie BS's, catches humans doing typical stupid human crap and the only real fact is the 7 bloody minutes while GWB read a book to school children.....sheesh.....
As for records....yes if you call a cheetah a turtle and then say the turtle set the turtle 100 meter dash world record.....well the man really isn't any better than the people he mocks.
After all this, I have now decided NOT to see or buy or rent the movie.
Anyway - did you actually read the article???? Sure the first page has a statement saying the movie is sorta factual, but in the typical NY Times fashion the facts come out later in the article and just as we read in the other threads here on the same topic, the movie BS's, catches humans doing typical stupid human crap and the only real fact is the 7 bloody minutes while GWB read a book to school children.....sheesh.....
As for records....yes if you call a cheetah a turtle and then say the turtle set the turtle 100 meter dash world record.....well the man really isn't any better than the people he mocks.
After all this, I have now decided NOT to see or buy or rent the movie.
I agree, it's not a documentary, therefor didn't set any records. What's really interesting is that they are allowed to have ads on TV basically railing Bush, but it doesn't count as air time for the democratic party. It's really a big Political Ad that makes money. I'd say he's getting paid by the Democratic party, but he really doesn't have to.
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Box Office Smash Hah LOL
In the whole State of Maine where I live, FarenheitRubbish 101, has been released in a total of 3 small independant movie theatres, that is it. Hardly a huge box office smash.
Of course, the pinko NYTimes will say otherwise.
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Oh, how can they call it a documentary when both sides of the issue are not presented? Just Moores pseudo facts with dubious sources.
Not very fair and balanced, wouldnt we say.
In the whole State of Maine where I live, FarenheitRubbish 101, has been released in a total of 3 small independant movie theatres, that is it. Hardly a huge box office smash.
Of course, the pinko NYTimes will say otherwise.
VNT
Oh, how can they call it a documentary when both sides of the issue are not presented? Just Moores pseudo facts with dubious sources.
Not very fair and balanced, wouldnt we say.
sprintman:
Appearances, especially when it’s reported by the American press, can be deceiving. I give absolutely no credence to reports that the American people are going to the film in droves. Even if a segment of the population were going to the film, they deserve no more recognition than the Gestapo would have deserved attending a Hitler film.
Moore and his supporters are so full of hatred and venom they should be universally denounced by all reasonable people. The GW and America haters have so lowered the level of civil discourse that American politics and the American people may never recover. This is the true legacy of Bill Clinton and Terry McAuliffe.
Appearances, especially when it’s reported by the American press, can be deceiving. I give absolutely no credence to reports that the American people are going to the film in droves. Even if a segment of the population were going to the film, they deserve no more recognition than the Gestapo would have deserved attending a Hitler film.
Moore and his supporters are so full of hatred and venom they should be universally denounced by all reasonable people. The GW and America haters have so lowered the level of civil discourse that American politics and the American people may never recover. This is the true legacy of Bill Clinton and Terry McAuliffe.
I will not call you "mate" for political reasons because we're not politically attuned. It's obvious that you are of the "liberal persuasion" and believe everything printed in our socialist papers because you want to. That's fair enough because I DON'T believe anything they publish
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Much of what Moore's detractors point to are not factual lies, but obvious misrepresentations that aren't technical lies. Not that I'm defending the guy, b/c I find him about as repulsive as Rush, but I'm not going to assume that it's all garbage.
By posting the article, I am hoping people will actually listen to what Moore has to say and not just scoff "lies" at everything that comes on screen. Maybe that way we can have a decent discussion afterwards, instead of what happened with Columbine, which always ends with me debunking the same Hardy law BS.
By posting the article, I am hoping people will actually listen to what Moore has to say and not just scoff "lies" at everything that comes on screen. Maybe that way we can have a decent discussion afterwards, instead of what happened with Columbine, which always ends with me debunking the same Hardy law BS.
I saw the movie last night. As a political movie it is very well done and presents a lot of material I think needs to be discussed. It is for sure a broadside over the Bush Administration but it also touches on the cowardice of the Democrates, the dishonesty of the Congress ("Michael, we don't actually read the bills."), the capitulation of the Senate, and I think Gore, after the election fraud in Florida and the clear ties to Bush/Crony/Saudi/Corporate money and power that have reduced this Democratic Republic to public policy by corporate greed and manipulation. Here are two views on the movie,
http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/
http://www.rense.com/general54/jjee.htm
http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/
http://www.rense.com/general54/jjee.htm
I'm so tired of hearing the complete BS claims about the election in florida. What about all of the absentee ballots, from our service men and women, that were thrown out by Democrats. Get real people! I'd have a lot more respect for libs if they didn't whine and moan to try and get their way. Second, take a look at who wrote that very anti michal moore column. He's definitely not a conservative.
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I guess as a partisan propaganda piece it is well done. As for the issues it addresses, they have been endless discussed in the media and on the net, most recently by the 911 commission. It is hard to think they overlooked anything significant.
How about some new issuers? Do we want a man as president that failed to vote to remove a president for office lying under oath? Could John Kerry detail the circumstances where he thinks it is OK for the president to lie under oath?
I must agree.It seems that liberals have a very selective memory.The election results were helping Bush but it was kept quiet.The 9-11 issue has been used by Moore to promote his liberal political agenda and people are eating it up.It seems that many in our society have quit thinking for themselves,this really makes the Democrats happy.After all,Democrats know what is better for us than we do.
It seems that liberals only seem to remember what 'wrongs' conservatives supposedly do.It also seems that liberals have two sets of standards.If a liberal does a wrong,it isn't truly wrong but it is a plot by a right wing conspiracy(Clinton),they are a victim.They are innocent and if for some reason they are found guilty,they will never do it again therefore they should not be punished.
If a conservative does wrong(Lott),it is the most terrible thing that any one could ever do,no ifs ands or buts about it.What they have done is wrong and they need to be punished as much as possible and as long as possible.
How two faced can liberals be?
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