Eye-Popping Genesis spark plug pricing

[JohnnyG]

Make sure that the OEM plugs are not indexed like the MB ones are. Maybe that's why replacements are so expensive.

 

[Brian123]

^^BIG negatory on that listing. That's a set of plugs for their 5.0l V8.^^

Autopart Premium Spark Plug Set
Part Number: 148079-02917343
Brand: Autopart Premium
Notes: Spark Plug Set -- Gap 0.044 inch; 6x Iridium & Platinum Spark Plugs
Detailed Notes: 6 Pcs Iridium & Platinum Spark Plugs for Honda Accord Chrysler Dodge Hyundai Ram
Product Remark: Spark Plug Pre-Set Gap: 0.035-0.043 inches; Using High-Performance Iridium Spark Plugs. Much better than Nickel and Platinum
Condition: New
Center Electrode Core Material: Platinum
Center Electrode Tip Material: Iridium
Gap Size (In): 0.035-0.043
Ground Configuration: Standard
Hex Size (In): 0.625
Manufacturer Heat Range: 7
Part Number: LKR7DIX-11S
Resistance (Ohms): 5000
Seat Type: Flat

 

[kschachn]

Never mind. Not going to get into it.

 

[Kira]

indexed

Indexed means what ?? Assigned to one bank or another?

 

[kschachn]

Indexed means what ?? Assigned to one bank or another?

No the electrode is oriented in a specific way when installed.

 

[Kira]

First I've heard of that.

A manufacturer would have to make the threads in the head as well as those of the plug to start (catch) at the right time and "shoulder out" at the right time too.

How does MB do it?

 

[kschachn]

First I've heard of that.

A manufacturer would have to make the threads in the head as well as those of the plug to start (catch) at the right time and "shoulder out" at the right time too.

How does MB do it?

I don’t know about MB but this is how NGK explains it. Sounds like a lot of hoopla to me:

https://ngksparkplugs.com/en/resources/gapping-and-indexing

 

[Kira]

Just off the top of my head....going by experiences, it seems a dual plug system, like on training aircraft, delivers more bang by design.

Stacking washers under a spark plug for a "1% increase" sounds like asking for trouble......though I'm certain MB would use special washers designed not to fail.

I was impressed when first I realized the lugs on automotive lamps serve to orient (index) filaments correctly.

 

[mk378]

AutoZone?

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Pickup unavailable; delivery unavailable.

 

[Kira]

This just in:

From me to NGK
Hello,
This regards an NGK spark plug #SILZFR7A9G.
These plugs fit a 2019 Genesis Sport with the 3.3-liter engine, as well as other Genesis and Kia vehicles.
Are you still manufacturing this spark plug?
Has it been superseded to a new number?
Thank you,

From Mark Kent of NGK
Thank you for your inquiry. I do apologize but Genesis and Kia have not released the plugs to the aftermarket. Unfortunately, even though NGK makes the plug, they are only available through the dealership and/or authorized parts distributors. Until that time it is the manufacturers proprietary information.


To BITOGers
Turns out my BIL Genesis is at 70k and he had the plugs done back at 42k -the recommended time.
I've asked him to dig up the bill and to check the price charged for the plugs then.

Such fun

 

[JohnnyG]

Just off the top of my head....going by experiences, it seems a dual plug system, like on training aircraft, delivers more bang by design.

Stacking washers under a spark plug for a "1% increase" sounds like asking for trouble......though I'm certain MB would use special washers designed not to fail.

I was impressed when first I realized the lugs on automotive lamps serve to orient (index) filaments correctly.

I actually tried that on my motorcycle. It doesn't work very well.
MB definitely does it, and I have heard reports of uneven idling as a result of not using the proper MB plugs. How true those reports are, I won't know for MANY years.

 

[2strokeNorthstar]

On our nissan the NGK plugs from the dealer in Nissan boxes are cheaper than the "aftermarket" NGK plugs from parts stores. So getting them at the dealer may not be a big deal. I think I paid $25 each or so. They are good for 110k miles. When I changed them at 100k and 200k they looked shockingly good.

 

[Hall]

RockAuto doesn't even have a listing for spark plugs for that engine.
I am flabbergasted.

Does anyone know the story behind these apparently special sparky poos?

I can't recall if it's a Civic or Accord, but somewhere around 2016-2020, the plugs are dealer only with nothing available from NGK or Denso. My wife's '24 Toyota Grand Highlander has no aftermarket plugs available either and they're maybe as low as $32-ish from online Toyota dealer options.

 

[Hall]

Sounds like a lot of hoopla to me:

Even the way NGK explains it makes it sound like it's technically possible and beneficial but not practical.

 

[Mainia]

2019 Genesis G80 Sport (3.3l V6) belonging to my BIL.
I sought part sources online, starting with dealership parts departments to avoid counterfeit parts.
There were options for full sets of plugs for Genesis' other engines.

However, plugs for the 3.3l, with its 42,000 mi. spark plug interval, are listed singly.
I've found them for $38 to $43 each. No sets of 6 were listed.
RockAuto doesn't even have a listing for spark plugs for that engine.
I am flabbergasted.

Does anyone know the story behind these apparently special sparky poos?
Is this 3.3 a queer duck of some sort?

Any feedback is appreciated.

edit: I did just find an Amazon listing for a set of 6 genuine plugs from "Big Tiger Parts" for $129.70 + $15 s+h
Also, Amazon had a "click over here" ad for OE plugs from MTQ Auto Parts (?) for $84.50.
Remember, the dealership prices come to ~$240.

By the way, Big Tiger Parts is a legitimate Korean importer. I order stuff though them if I can and some of the stuff comes FedEx directly from Korea and gets to Minneapolis in 5 working days, and I just paid $20 shipping. They sent it air. That was before the tariffs though.