Exxon Superflo 10w30 in an Elantra?

[blmqzjc]

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Originally posted by Ray H:
Hyundai's shop manuals perspeak slightly differently than their owner's manuals by always stating that alternate viscosity grades are acceptable per actual climate conditions. The Koreans are apparently covering their bases (that's not my first choice of wording...). As to the charge leveled that Hyundai 4-cyl engines are defacto sludgemonsters, I haven't been able to verify that with any of the results of my own online searches. (I don't doubt that some have had a sludge issue in a Hyundai motor, but I found no sludging issue in the archived TSBs on Hyundai WebTech that indicated any general sludging problem that required a factory fix in design to rectify. Any motor can go belly-up with sludge if its oil isn't changed frequently enough.) I owned/serviced two '88 Hyundai Excels, and a '94 Hyundai Excell in my household through at least 200,000 miles on each using nothing but whatever dino was on sale, cheapest, for oil changes and Pep Boys "Proline" or WalMart "SuperTech" oil filters. Lube/engine troubles were never an issue, though clutches, rear wheel bearings, and an occasional alternator or water pump were.

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Yours is the first post I think I've seen that mentioned the dreaded 'S' word - sludge. I've never heard of Elantras having sludge issues. I also use a sprinkling of LC20 in the crankcase, which along with auto rx are probably the only 2 additives I'd ever put in a crankcase, just not at the same time of course.

My other car is a Passat 1.8T, so if you want to talk sludge...

 

[Triple_Se7en]

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Originally posted by blmqzjc:
I'm sure they are counting on people not applying for the rebates, just like any other manufacturer or retail bohemoth.

Actually, PepBoys is one of the easier MIR. The form I got today with my purchase covers 5/28 thru 7/1, and you can apply for all the rebates in one pass. Just save up your purchases during the 5 weeks or so, and submit the one form, and receipts, all at the same time. They don't require UPC bar codes, original this or that, your first born, etc. like a lot of places.

Don't misunderstand - I'm not a huge fan of PepBoys - would never get a car serviced there. But a couple of times a year, it's worth it to stock up on various items. I picked up another Purolator Kahuna filter (a rebadged Mann BTW) for my Passat while I was over there - $.49 A/R. Normally sells for 8 to 10 bucks. Probably won't need it for another year, but for $.49 who cares? [/QB]

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You are of the minority here. It usually takes most members here 2-3 calls to get our money from Pep Boys. I am not talking about how easy their rebate system is -- I'm talking about Pep Boys not wanting to dish-out the smallest & the larger $15 rebates without asking more than once for it.

 

[blmqzjc]

Computer glitch in middle of post - pls disregard.

[ June 24, 2006, 03:46 PM: Message edited by: blmqzjc ]

 

[blmqzjc]

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Originally posted by Triple_Se7en:

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Originally posted by blmqzjc:
I'm sure they are counting on people not applying for the rebates, just like any other manufacturer or retail bohemoth.

Actually, PepBoys is one of the easier MIR. The form I got today with my purchase covers 5/28 thru 7/1, and you can apply for all the rebates in one pass. Just save up your purchases during the 5 weeks or so, and submit the one form, and receipts, all at the same time. They don't require UPC bar codes, original this or that, your first born, etc. like a lot of places.

Don't misunderstand - I'm not a huge fan of PepBoys - would never get a car serviced there. But a couple of times a year, it's worth it to stock up on various items. I picked up another Purolator Kahuna filter (a rebadged Mann BTW) for my Passat while I was over there - $.49 A/R. Normally sells for 8 to 10 bucks. Probably won't need it for another year, but for $.49 who cares?

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You are of the minority here. It usually takes most members here 2-3 calls to get our money from Pep Boys. I am not talking about how easy their rebate system is -- I'm talking about Pep Boys not wanting to dish-out the smallest & the larger $15 rebates without asking more than once for it. [/QB]

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I've probably sent off 3 or 4 Pep Boys rebates in the last couple of years. The only one I had a problem with was the one I mailed ONE DAY past the postmark deadline. The deadline for postmark is usually one week after the rebate period ends. Currently, the rebate period that ends July 1 must be postmarked by July 8.

So the one time I didn't get my Pep Boys rebate was technically my fault, and I'm not upset about it.

Sorry if your experience was bad.

 

[Ken42]

Hyundai with sludge.... sure if you do not change your oil. A born breeder of sludge? No.
But they do have small oil passages and the 2005 has CVVT which uses oil to control it. You will be fine with 10w30.

Ken

 

[blupupher]

The CVVT started in mid 2003.
My 2004 Elantra does not say anything about 5w-20, but my 2005 Tucson with the same 2.0 did recomend 5w-20 as an option, and I believe the 2005+ Elantra's do to.

I have used a variaty of 0w30, 5w30 and 10w30 oils and never had any issue. Superflo should work just fine. You need to remember, these engines spec a SH or better oil.

 

[blmqzjc]

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Originally posted by blupupher:
The CVVT started in mid 2003.
My 2004 Elantra does not say anything about 5w-20, but my 2005 Tucson with the same 2.0 did recomend 5w-20 as an option, and I believe the 2005+ Elantra's do to.

I have used a variaty of 0w30, 5w30 and 10w30 oils and never had any issue. Superflo should work just fine. You need to remember, these engines spec a SH or better oil.

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Wrong on the 5w20 for 2005 Elantras, at least mine. As I said earlier, the use of 5w20 is not mentioned ANYWHERE in any literature that I was given with the purchase of my 2005 Elantra GT. Not in the owner's manual, quick reference card, nada.

Would it be ok? Probably, but it is NOT recommended, or even mentioned.

 

[wileyE]

My accent (at around 30,000) didn't like 5/20 (penz), made the bottom end noticable louder at idle when the oil was hot. Would have never noticed it but I was under the car with my ears near the pan one day. Didn't like what it sounded like. Changed it out to 10w30 (TA), got the oil good and hot and checked it again. Noticably quieted up. Not a 5/20 bash just an observation.

 

[blupupher]

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Originally posted by blmqzjc:
Wrong on the 5w20 for 2005 Elantras, at least mine. As I said earlier, the use of 5w20 is not mentioned ANYWHERE in any literature that I was given with the purchase of my 2005 Elantra GT. Not in the owner's manual, quick reference card, nada.

Would it be ok? Probably, but it is NOT recommended, or even mentioned.

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OK, like I said, I was not positive, but I thought someone had said it had changed, but I had no way to confirm.

 

[Ray H]

I use 10w30 in my '03 2.7L V6 as a matter of course for the same reason. (Hee, hee - it's been known to get a bit warm, here, in SoCal, too.

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[Ray H]

Hyundai did begin recommending 5W-20 for at least some engines for the 2005 model year. It's also possible the company issued a TSB regarding an oil viscosity change.

 

[blmqzjc]

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Originally posted by Ray H:
Hyundai did begin recommending 5W-20 for at least some engines for the 2005 model year. It's also possible the company issued a TSB regarding an oil viscosity change.

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That's certainly possible. But I was in a dealership a couple of weeks ago, and the SA and I had a lengthy discussion about oil and OCI's for the Elantra. He said 10w30 year around in this climate. Again, I'm in a fairly warm to hot climate (Atlanta).