I have an 02 prizm. It takes a Super Tech 4967 filter. It is quite small. I know the Motorcraft FL400 filter will fit. My question is would this larger filter be ok to use? I do not know about the bypass designs being different or any other problems using a much larger filter. Any info would be appreciated.
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Look up both filters (cross reference) on the Wix filters website. You will get some data to compare them, like bypass pressure, thread type and size, can size, gasket size, etc.
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okieboy37 ...you sure you've got that number correct? The tee-cup Super Tech filter that would have anything to do with a FL400 would be the Super Tech3416 ..at least I figure. There's no listing for an Super Tech4967 ..just about anywhere (I checked Baldwin and Wix)
According to Wix there's no such vehicle as an 02 Prism. ..at least if the Prism is a Geo. That's the only Prism I'm aware of. They assert that it ended its existence in 1998. It's kinda like the guy who tried to sell a 1959 Ford Falcon.
I managed to "guess" and put/chose some NZ-?? engine on Donalson's site and it puked out a Toyota filter.
However...if this is a Toyota engine that uses the 3/4-16 thread with a 2.4/2.1 gasket size ...then here's what it looks like in WIX
Part Number: 51394
UPC Number: 765809513945
Principal Application: GM (85-05), Daihatsu (88-92), Infiniti (91-96), Kawasaki Mules, Nissan (91-95), Toyota (80-07), Scion (04-07), Atlas-Copco, Briggs&Stratton, Cub Cadet, Generac, John Deere, Kubota, New Holland
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 2.977
Outer Diameter Top: 2.685
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Burst Pressure-PSI: 400
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micro Rating: 19
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.475 2.173 0.233
Here's the FL400S
Part Number: 51516
UPC Number: 765809515161
Principal Application: Ford/Mercury (81-07), Chrysler/Jeep (02-07), Mazda Trucks (94-07)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 4.828
Outer Diameter Top: 2.921
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=14/31
Burst Pressure-PSI: 275
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micro Rating: 20
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.734 2.430 0.226
Little larger diameter can ...little bit bigger gasket. In WIX the bypass is the same. Balwin B33 sports a 14psi bypass iirc.
Errr...you don't suffer from dyslexia, do you
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According to Wix there's no such vehicle as an 02 Prism. ..at least if the Prism is a Geo. That's the only Prism I'm aware of. They assert that it ended its existence in 1998. It's kinda like the guy who tried to sell a 1959 Ford Falcon.
However...if this is a Toyota engine that uses the 3/4-16 thread with a 2.4/2.1 gasket size ...then here's what it looks like in WIX
Part Number: 51394
UPC Number: 765809513945
Principal Application: GM (85-05), Daihatsu (88-92), Infiniti (91-96), Kawasaki Mules, Nissan (91-95), Toyota (80-07), Scion (04-07), Atlas-Copco, Briggs&Stratton, Cub Cadet, Generac, John Deere, Kubota, New Holland
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 2.977
Outer Diameter Top: 2.685
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Burst Pressure-PSI: 400
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micro Rating: 19
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.475 2.173 0.233
Here's the FL400S
Part Number: 51516
UPC Number: 765809515161
Principal Application: Ford/Mercury (81-07), Chrysler/Jeep (02-07), Mazda Trucks (94-07)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 4.828
Outer Diameter Top: 2.921
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=14/31
Burst Pressure-PSI: 275
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micro Rating: 20
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.734 2.430 0.226
Little larger diameter can ...little bit bigger gasket. In WIX the bypass is the same. Balwin B33 sports a 14psi bypass iirc.
Errr...you don't suffer from dyslexia, do you
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Okay ...it's a Chevrolet Prism after 1997. Same filters apply.
I have a 99 prizm and I have used a FL400S filter.... no problems with it at all. Seals well and gives me more media and .5 quart more capacity.
Alternatively, I also could use an ST 3600 or AAP 3600 (BOGOF). They are the same size as the FL400.
In a pinch any 3614 will work too, but is quite a bit smaller in height and does not offer as much extra capacity.
Hope that helps...
Alternatively, I also could use an ST 3600 or AAP 3600 (BOGOF). They are the same size as the FL400.
In a pinch any 3614 will work too, but is quite a bit smaller in height and does not offer as much extra capacity.
Hope that helps...
The following is extreme: If it will take a FL400, then it might (MIGHT, that is as the gaskets are slightly different diameter) take a FL1A which is even bigger and, if it will take a FL1A, then it will take the even bigger FL299 clone (you don't buy FL299 in Motorcraft, too pricy). The FL299 clone will double the FL400 capacity (and probably double your crankcase capacity?). The FL299 is 7 inches long and holds about one quart.
If it will take an FL-1A then it will take the FL-300 (Same ratings just shorter. Or even the FL-842(Probably have to visit a dealer for this one.
In overall height
FL-1A
FL-300
FL-842
Same diameters and ratings just overall capacity.
In overall height
FL-1A
FL-300
FL-842
Same diameters and ratings just overall capacity.
Wix 51394 came as standard size on a Corolla I maintain and I went with the slightly longer Wix 51396. I believe these are the same vehicles, 1.8L Toyota engine? I too, did not like the "tea-cup" filter, but I realize now it is more than adequate for its desired task which is filtering oil that never gets dirty anyway! I do not like the way the MOTORCRAFT FL400 sits on there, BUT THATS JUST ME BEING ME.
I 've done a fair amount of forum reading on the early iterations of the 1ZZFEs. The sump is only 3.5 quarts, the pvc system is not one of the best. The oil control rings can gunk up. I like having a bit more oil circulating. The 3600 or FL400S give me the warm and fuzzy's
Do fill them halfway with oil when you install though.
my
Do fill them halfway with oil when you install though.
my
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I've got an 01 prizm - there's a comparison of oil filters at http://corolland.com/oil-filters.html - I'll give you the easy version (or skip to the bottom) - you can use the 4AG motor oil filters (Purolator 22821) which is 1/2" larger diameter and 1" taller than the std filter.. I personally have been using the 14477 (taller than the called-for 14476) for years with no problems. Also, the toyota branded filter, while made by purolator, seems to have a different sort of pleat pattern, and has much more surface area than the others...
trixman: speaking from experience, the rings get wicked gross, i had to replace mine at 112k and after this experience,i later was the proud owner of 16 bent valves, with no apparent reason
trixman: speaking from experience, the rings get wicked gross, i had to replace mine at 112k and after this experience,i later was the proud owner of 16 bent valves, with no apparent reason
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