EVs on Long Road Trips

Yesterday I drove from northwestern Maine to southeastern Pennsylvania via New Hampshire, Vermont and Albany, NY. The trip time was 10:15 including two stops of about five minutes each. I am contemplating making the move to a Tesla model 3 next year so just for laughs and grins I pulled up the Tesla route planner and forced it to follow my route as best as possible. The recommendation was three charging stops. Assuming 15 minutes per stop this would add 35 minutes to the trip.

Is it even 35 minutes more for the EV when you include the pre and post trip fill up the ice car ?

The EV allows for every outbound trip to be full and for the car to arrive home essentially "empty" yet be ready for the weeks commute without another dedicated stop.
 
Sometimes if you think about it, you can ask why is this subject so polarizing?
Makes no sense. Just read the posts in the first two pages.
We all buy things that brings us enjoyment. Why a dividing line on EV's OR gasoline vehicles?
Why try to convince others that your method is better?

I see two clear things here.

1. There are those that do not mind stopping during a long trip for 30 minutes to an hour or more to charge a vehicle, possibly depending on the trip multiple times. It's part of the over all enjoyment and fun of an EV. They all admit, gasoline is more convenient but it doesn't bother them to stop. For short trips, if you can charge at home, for many, EVs are more convenient. I get it, I love electronics too. I would love the thought of not having gas engine maintenance.

2. There are those who do not want to stop for 30 minutes or one or two hours longer. (just read the ENTIRE OP (post #1)
Gasoline works better for them. I am one of those, Im not going to be concerned about a 4+ hour trip to my sons house or a 5+ hour to my daughters house having to charge a vehicle during these trips. We do not stop on road trips, we (I) love the open road, 80+ MPH on the interstates. Not a concern in the world about how much charge is left. So our primary large car will always be gasoline. I wouldn't rule out an EV as secondary but that will be a long time down the road since we just bought the gas version of the Equinox in 2025.

3. So I am not so sure, why each side (both guilty) try to convince the other side that there method is better?? They are vehicles with engines, who cares what anyone prefers. I do think by the time most in here are in an old age home that a better (?) technology will come out. I guess, who knows?

Ps in the recent past I also pointed out that the closest super chargers are 75 miles apart here on the coast and the closest Mercedes fast chargers are 1.5 hour drive away. So a family member who comes to visit us in his BMW EV has to stop 1.5 hours away after a 2 hour trip (depending) for a 30 minute charge before getting to our house. The cost itself is roughly the same price as gasoline. He doesn't mind because that stop is at Bucee's
Myself, I would freak out stopping for 30 minutes 1.5 hours from my destination to charge the car. Different strokes.
 
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Sometimes if you think about it, you can ask why is this subject so polarizing?
Makes no sense. Just read the posts in the first two pages.
We all buy things that brings us enjoyment. Why a dividing line on EV's OR gasoline vehicles?
Why try to convince others that your method is better?

I see two clear things here.

1. There are those that do not mind stopping during a long trip for 30 minutes to an hour or more to charge a vehicle, possibly depending on the trip multiple times. It's part of the over all enjoyment and fun of an EV. They all admit, gasoline is more convenient but it doesn't bother them to stop. For short trips, if you can charge at home, for many, EVs are more convenient. I get it, I love electronics too. I would love the thought of not having gas engine maintenance.

2. There are those who do not want to stop for 30 minutes or one or two hours longer. (just read the ENTIRE OP (post #1)
Gasoline works better for them. I am one of those, Im not going to be concerned about a 4+ hour trip to my sons house or a 5+ hour to my daughters house having to charge a vehicle during these trips. We do not stop on road trips, we (I) love the open road, 80+ MPH on the interstates. Not a concern in the world about how much charge is left. So our primary large car will always be gasoline. I wouldn't rule out an EV as secondary but that will be a long time down the road since we just bought the gas version of the Equinox in 2025.

3. So I am not so sure, why each side (both guilty) try to convince the other side that there method is better?? They are vehicles with engines, who cares what anyone prefers. I do think by the time most in here are in an old age home that a better (?) technology will come out. I guess, who knows?

Ps in the recent past I also pointed out that the closest super chargers are 75 miles apart here on the coast and the closest Mercedes fast chargers are 1.5 hour drive away. So a family member who comes to visit us in his BMW EV has to stop 1.5 hours away after a 2 hour trip (depending) for a 30 minute charge before getting to our house. The cost itself is roughly the same price as gasoline. He doesn't mind because that stop is at Bucee's
Myself, I would freak out stopping for 30 minutes 1.5 hours from my destination to charge the car. Different strokes.
AG, there is truth in your post, but from a large extent, the difference is between those with EV ownership experience and those without.
I have more EV experience than most here, and I've said since day 1 EVs are not for everyone. I've also said I held many of the beliefs we see posted, only to find reality is no where near what I thought. These cars are different, you learn.

It is also true that cars that cannot use the NACS connector may have more trouble finding charging opportunities. And some EVs charge at different rates than others. Of course, that issue is minimized by plugging in overnight but maximized on the road.

I'm a numbers guy. We use our EV far more than our ICE vehicles. The ICE vehicles spend so much more time fueling; it is not even close. Now add in ICE service requirements... Sheesh!
 
I've just been watching reviews trickle in over time. Things like this:

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AG, there is truth in your post, but from a large extent, the difference is between those with EV ownership experience and those without.

I'm a numbers guy. We use our EV far more than our ICE vehicles. The ICE vehicles spend so much more time fueling; it is not even close. Now add in ICE service requirements... Sheesh!
Just gassed up my Expedition ahead of a long road trip. It came out to $100 and it wasn't even full. I forgot how expensive running that thing can be. My EV isn't big enough for all the stuff we're bringing. Can't wait till there are more three-row options that can tow. I would have rented an EV9, Gravity, etc, but none available in my area :(
I've just been watching reviews trickle in over time. Things like this [...]
There are always going to be people with issues. I've had success just using Plugshare to pick chargers every 180 - 220 miles on my route. It takes like 10 to 15 minutes of planning. My vehicle will do it automatically as well, but I don't trust the recommendations because of potential for congestion and charger reliability, so prefer to select my own. I also pick locations with a backup nearby. The Supercharger network is very helpful as well. The one time I had a big issue was when my destination had power out due to a tornado AND the hotel messed our reservation. We had to limp the vehicle 40 miles to a Supercharger (it was a Model Y rental).
 
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