EVs on Long Road Trips

A very nice hybrid really reduces the stress and cost and for me I wouldn't get home in one day if I added charger stops in and as noted you can really get nailed on the cost of some charging...seriously so.
While I like my hybrid I think I'd also like to try an EV.
You can also "really get nailed" on the cost of gas, seriously so and you can avoid this for either gas or amps by planning stops to minimize the cost of either.
 
Rural is a broad word.

In SC as rural as you can get is likely no more than 50 miles from an interstate and access to some sort of charger. Likely no issues here as long as your willing to wait for a charge.

In parts of the Great Plains where I grew up there is no interstate for hundreds of miles. Of course you get that far out and people are different, someone would be happy to lend you the powered end of an extension cord. The wait will be longer but the company better.
When I think rural I always think of middle of nowhere Montana or parts of Kentucky.
 
And one has to wonder if it'll just be better in the future. Better apps, more chargers -> less planning necessary. Rural might still be a problem but wasn't it always? rough roads, long distances between gas stations, no signs, etc.

If I wasn't cheap I'd contemplate one. It'd cover 90% of my needs, maybe 95%. Good enough, heck my current vehicle only does 95%.
 
While I like my hybrid I think I'd also like to try an EV.
You can also "really get nailed" on the cost of gas, seriously so and you can avoid this for either gas or amps by planning stops to minimize the cost of either.
I am looking too but I will price insurance on the EV(prior to buying) and have you looked at the cost of charging (if you arent at your home)
its as much as gas... which for a trip might be ok.

If I buy an EV it will be second vehicle and probably no trips that need more than 1 charging stop per way.

The new cx-5 hybrid looks exciting for middle ground.. but the engine woosh.. who wants a first year compression ignition gas engine?
 
South Dakota is one of the least densely populated states in the United States. Topic came up on reddit.

Two very different experiences:

"What a day to ask on! Cold temps can cut your vehicles distance in half. I’ve done several EV road trips, and it mainly comes down to planning. Often never skipping a major charging station if they’re more than an hour apart. If it’s supercharging it’s really not much more than a bathroom/food break anyways, but outside of the sub zero temp it’s great. If I’m road tripping the coldest days I usually prefer to stop a little more often anyways. As I get older I have less desire to power through to a destination purely to maximize time. Every year range anxiety continues to become less of an issue anyways as more and more charge points come online. Family members have been driving EVs for more than a decade now so the volume of options seems like such a luxury now!"

"Wife and I bought an EV to trim down the cost of her daily commute to and from Sioux Falls ($9k -11k/yr depending on fuel costs and routine Maint.) Depending on Wind and Temps the 300+ range battery can use 80% to travel 110 -120m round trip. There's a lot more public charging than I realized before ownership, but we still utilize my ice vehicle to make extended trips that mostly utilize highways instead of interstates.

Also that whole 80mph speed limit thing doesn't really help Gas Consumption or Battery Efficiency, if you slow it down you'll get a lot better of both."

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I drove from NJ to SD last year. I could have easily done it in an EV. When I take road trips its for vacation/leisure activity. I like taking my time and randomly stopping. I also don't mind stopping every 2-3 hours to stretch. I think sitting longer than that is unhealthy. So longer wait for charing is a non-issue to me.

My concern is I like to venture out like this guy. See things off the beaten path. Right now my choices in no order are Rivian R2, Telsa M3, Mach E GT or 4Runner.


I love Peter Santenello's videos. I'd love to meet him some day. His series on the Amish was my absolute favorite. I think there's a few areas that may require a bit more charging to make the next charger owning an EV and as much as I travel between Wisconsin, Illinois, Minnesota, and Iowa I haven't found it to be any problem. That's not to say there aren't areas that could still have issues in this case. I find while it is possible to get the prices to creep closer to gasoline cost, it still is cheaper and home charging more than negates the extra cost of public fast charging anyway. Then again I own Teslas and get preferred pricing at Tesla Superchargers so it still feels cheap to me.

For me when it comes to charging and preferred pricing I'd only buy a Tesla. Everything else that offers what I have with my Teslas is more expensive and none of them have FSD. I've been critical of FSD in the past, but I use it nearly every time I drive and I'll never own another car that doesn't have it. It's not that I can't drive or don't like driving, but there's things that FSD sees before I do at times and I truly see it as a valuable safety system. I'm less likely to use it in town, but I drive a lot at night on rural roads and it always sees deer well before I do and I've hit 3 deer in the last 10 years. I've yet to hit one with FSD active.
 
Not worth the inconvenience for me, which is why I don't own one. I ran with @buster 's numbers, even for me they're not worth it. Maybe it's my age, as I get older I like simple, and when I want something I want it and rather not wait or have any hassles. The 95% 5% numbers wouldn't even be remotely close. If they're that close for him he should go for it, as long as that 5% doesn't start growing should he really start to travel. ;)
At the end of the day what you don't know you don't know, and with never doing it yourself, you just don't know.

I don't mean that as an insult, it's just more of a mental block than reality. If it was that big of an issue I would have been stranded multiple times traveling multiple states. There's no hassles. If you're using GPS which most people use when they don't know where they're going it does the math and tells you where to charge. With FSD you don't even have to touch the wheel for any of it. It'll perfectly park it at the charger when you need to stop.

I'm still amazed at the amount of EV haters that post here to tell of their non experience of why they won't ever own an EV. Thanks for the laugh.
 
Buc-ee’s alone adds something like 4 states per year - on top of adding to current states and are well past 50 locations - easy to knock off a half hour or so refreshing vehicle and passengers …
The map will grow …
 
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