EV out of charge — no problem

My wife had a Samsung Note 2 from circa 2013. I could pop the battery cover off with a coin or even a fingernail. When she was complaining about poor battery life, I got an OEM replacement from Amazon for maybe $20. But it certainly wasn't water resistant, which is the primary reason why it's so difficult to replace a battery these days. It's not a trivial thing to restore the water resistance since it requires training and the proper equipment to perform the service.
I remember dropping my Samsung Galaxy S3 and the battery flying out. lol
 
Better place tried to market this and Tesla even did a battery swap at a Tesla event.

Better place went belly and and Tesla abandoned battery swapping
 
Better place tried to market this and Tesla even did a battery swap at a Tesla event.

Better place went belly and and Tesla abandoned battery swapping
Battery swapping is a bad idea. Constantly disconnecting cooling lines and they'll leak. Keep in mind that battery condition is not guaranteed with the swapped battery too. I'm not a fan of swapping my battery. I'll charge. I'm fine with that.
 
What was old is new again. Based on 2023 legislation passed by the European Union, all phones sold under the EU footprint will need to have replaceable batteries by 2027. This is a win for all consumers, including the U.S., because the major smartphone manufacturers (e.g., Apple, Samsung, Google) mostly produce standard models for global consumption.
This is only meh to me, because once a phone does not have software support, I will not keep it. I suppose it might be possible for me if a phone had a really good and active ROM community where I could load third party ROMS that were kept fairly up to date. But the phones are so powerful now that there seems to be less of a community doing this than there used to be.

That said my current phone, a Google Pixel 8 Pro, was promised 7 years of software updates, and at least 4 new Android versions. I got it right at the end of the cycle before the Pixel 9s came out, so, maybe only 6 years for me. But still that's pretty good for someone who typically only keeps a phone 2 years. And Google does a pretty good job of keeping thing fresh with their updates on these Pixels, I just got a bunch of updates that gave it most of the same looks and feels of the brand new Pixel 10 series.
 
Battery swapping is a bad idea. Constantly disconnecting cooling lines and they'll leak. Keep in mind that battery condition is not guaranteed with the swapped battery too. I'm not a fan of swapping my battery. I'll charge. I'm fine with that.
That was my initial reaction, but upon further thought...

If there were something like a service baked into this where you were always guaranteed a certain capacity, and that any mechanical issues were addressed like the leaks you mentioned, it might not be bad. It would be great to know if your battery was going bad, you could just go swap for another. It would also probably make ownership a lot easier for people who can't have L2 charging at home, like people who live in apartments.

And it would most certainly make road trips much easier as things exist today. Although, with the constant improvement in charging speeds, it may be roughly equivalent to a gas fillup in a couple of years anyway to just charge.

This probably works really well for taxis and ubers(or the equivalent of Uber), of which I can only assume in China that there are a lot.

Now the trick is just to make this service affordable.
 
"Replicable" and "easy to replace" are two very different concepts.

The whole premise behind the EU's decision is to make collecting batteries for recycling easier, not any consumer-centric reasons.

tl;dr - You're still not going to be able to swap batteries in your smartphone, even after 2027
You can replace batteries today, you just have pry your phone case open and void your warranty. That said if your warranty is up anyway and the phone is otherwise dead, may as well go ahead. There are dissasembly videos for pretty much every phone made on YouTube.
 
If they wanted, they could make an oil change a lot more idiot proof and easier to do.
Just use High Performance Lubricants super duper fancy deluxe oils and then you'll have to change a lot less often!

*oil analysis regimen required, not included with purchase
 
My wife had a Samsung Note 2 from circa 2013. I could pop the battery cover off with a coin or even a fingernail. When she was complaining about poor battery life, I got an OEM replacement from Amazon for maybe $20. But it certainly wasn't water resistant, which is the primary reason why it's so difficult to replace a battery these days. It's not a trivial thing to restore the water resistance since it requires training and the proper equipment to perform the service.
You need to replace the seals also if you want to keep the water resistance.
 
Just use High Performance Lubricants super duper fancy deluxe oils and then you'll have to change a lot less often!

*oil analysis regimen required, not included with purchase
You're right, but some folks will still cling to 3000 miles no matter what. I was thinking of moving all oil filters to on top of the engine with easy access and changing oil pan geometry to make vacuum extraction easy and efficient. No need to remove the plug.
 
You're right, but some folks will still cling to 3000 miles no matter what. I was thinking of moving all oil filters to on top of the engine with easy access and changing oil pan geometry to make vacuum extraction easy and efficient. No need to remove the plug.
That would be pretty neat, would you weld up a custom pan?
 
That would be pretty neat, would you weld up a custom pan?
Not me. The manufacturer's could do if they wanted but there will be protests. It will cost more and some old-school want to still remove the plug. Point is, they can make it easier than it is now and they could make it idiot proof to change a battery.
 
Not me. The manufacturer's could do if they wanted but there will be protests. It will cost more and some old-school want to still remove the plug. Point is, they can make it easier than it is now and they could make it idiot proof to change a battery.

Making it easy to change a battery isn't that difficult. Would likely be bigger and protecting the battery in transit would be important. Possibly a hard case around the battery. I had a bunch of phones (Nokia, Motorola, Samsung) where

But these days people want cool-looking and compact, with some kind of water resistance. That's going to make it more difficult. I would think the costs would be trivial.
 
Making it easy to change a battery isn't that difficult. Would likely be bigger and protecting the battery in transit would be important. Possibly a hard case around the battery. I had a bunch of phones (Nokia, Motorola, Samsung) where

But these days people want cool-looking and compact, with some kind of water resistance. That's going to make it more difficult. I would think the costs would be trivial.
Perhaps cell phone companies wanna sell phones instead of batteries?
 
Perhaps cell phone companies wanna sell phones instead of batteries?

These companies do spend a lot of battery research, even when they don't make the batteries.

There are accusations that companies like Apple want to make money off of battery replacement services. The physical battery in an iPhone likely costs them less than $10, but it's a lot of work to install. I look at what older batteries were like. My first mobile phone was a Nokia 5100 series with a plastic shell battery that attached to the phone.

Apple really changed things. They might not have been the first with a battery that was sealed inside, but they certainly led the movement. The original iPhone was apparently the first where it was sealed/glued inside, while others could be replaced with simple tools.
 
Apple really changed things. They might not have been the first with a battery that was sealed inside, but they certainly led the movement. The original iPhone was apparently the first where it was sealed/glued inside, while others could be replaced with simple
Apple has always been the cell to have; it had the best tech and was basically jewelry. And yeah, they are solid. But I think they have lost their luster as compared to some of the Androids. Their owners love 'em, but they also may not be familiar with other phones.

I like my Google Pixel Pro. Years ago I loved my Windows phone, but I was probably the only one who did...
 
Apple has always been the cell to have; it had the best tech and was basically jewelry. And yeah, they are solid. But I think they have lost their luster as compared to some of the Androids. Their owners love 'em, but they also may not be familiar with other phones.

I like my Google Pixel Pro. Years ago I loved my Windows phone, but I was probably the only one who did...
Yeah I've lost interest in Apple. I went with the Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra.
 
Apple has always been the cell to have; it had the best tech and was basically jewelry. And yeah, they are solid. But I think they have lost their luster as compared to some of the Androids. Their owners love 'em, but they also may not be familiar with other phones.

I like my Google Pixel Pro. Years ago I loved my Windows phone, but I was probably the only one who did...
Choices are good and glad that you are still supporting an American corporation. If I did Android I would certainly own a Pixel. IN fact, Google is going gangbusters discounting the price to grab market share. The new Pixel 10's all versions have great write-ups and Google and the cell companies they are working with including MVNO companies are shaving $300+ off the prices of their just released series 10 phones. AMAZING prices!

With that said and I say it all the time. I LOVE new gadgets, really loyal to no one. However I am wrapped up with Apple in every imaginable way as well as family members except one (daughter in law) who has a S24+_ I think. All Apple devices integrated into my life. No complaints except I get bored and like to try new things. Would not be possible or desirable to do with Android and no desire too other then I just love "new" stuff/experiances.
 
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