Place where I retired from has swallowed the ev propaganda in full. They have been purchasing multi hundred thousand dollar Blue Bird battery buses. They have been a dismal failure. Multiple issues keeping them from running, all ev drivetrain and control failures.Today one crapped the SCM. Less than a year old and 2000 miles. It is out of its 90 day warranty. New SCM has been quoted at $80,000! One can buy a lot of diesel for that. Blue Bird partnered with Cummins for these money wasters. One would think that Cummins would have their proverbial stuff together and put out a usable product. A decent warranty would be nice too.
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It’s amazing how much some spend when it’s other people’s money
But the more amazing part is these things are closer to prototypes than even beta test versions
I’m not throwing anything electric under the bus like many folks here. But some things - even bikes and power tools are further along than heavy passenger vehicles and OTR trucks
But the more amazing part is these things are closer to prototypes than even beta test versions
I’m not throwing anything electric under the bus like many folks here. But some things - even bikes and power tools are further along than heavy passenger vehicles and OTR trucks
There are good ideas and then there are good ideas implemented badly.
You know buses that are powered by diesel and gas break down everyday too? Don't you?
I could show you 100's of "public transportation" mistakes made by cities, states, etc. that are all (petro) fuel based.
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Correct. This is because some things don't work well when scaled up. Did anybody ever wonder why insects mostly remained so small compared to other earthly creatures? It is mostly because their method of breathing is from spriacles in their thoraxes and abdomens which can't be made larger and functional through evolution.
This is fiction just like EV buses and trucks.
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Yea-guys that are afraid of touch screens on dashboards and EV vehicles.
"Great Scott! This exo-skeletoned insect or arachnid (I've not had the opportunity to count its appendages) evidently didn't read, or read but failed to heed, J. B. S. Haldane's classic essay 'On Being The Right Size', and fails to realize that although its strength has increased with the square of its size, the forces acting against it have cubed. Ergo, in practical terms, its effective strength is 1/10 that of its smaller relative. Hence, we have little to fear beyond its rather off-putting appearance.
Right, let's be off, then. Mother won't be pleased if we're late for tea."
I hope battery-electric buses do work out - they seem to be a perfect fit for the advantages of EVs, and would not be overly disadvantaged by the inherent limitations.
When the giant spiders/insects come I'll give you the giant newspaper to dispatch them. I'm running the other way.
No, the gratification stems from pointing out the folly of overly complicated and expensive machinations to fix imaginary problems. Sorta like Rube Goldbergs.
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Methinks that a 90 day warranty should have been a huge warning sign. It seems in this case that a political agenda combined with other people's money drove a manufacturer to build something that they themselves had little confidence in.
Aside from that, a school bus seems like a really good application for an electric vehicle. They don't travel very far. They might only be used 4-6 hours per day, five days per week. They typically have 4-5 hours to charge between the morning an afternoon runs, and they can be charged for upwards of twelve hours overnight. They should make sense once someone figures out how to build them.
I wouldn't know off the top of my head, but is that a normal warranty for a vehicle like this?
They do make electric school busses. I don't know how many are in rotation at this point though. I haven't knowingly seen one.
I believe Ive said it before EVs have not been proven in the HD or commercial transportation markets.
Lots of half baked prototypes getting lotted as production vehicles.
Amazons first batch of non-Rivian delivery trucks failed within 3 years.
This extremely short lifespan does the opposite of reduce pollution and I’m an EV proponent.
Depends on who's making them. BYD has been in the US transit EV bus market for more than a decade.
Yes-and a large facility in Southern California-
In less than a decade, Chinese manufacturer BYD has grown to become the largest battery-electric bus manufacturer in North America.
The company’s California plant is located in Lancaster, at the northern edge of Los Angeles County. Since buying the 106,000-square-foot vacant building that once housed a motorhome manufacturing facility in 2013, it has expanded the facility to over a half-million square feet — about the size of nine American football fields.
https://www.busandmotorcoachnews.com/a-tour-through-byd-electric-bus-plant-in-california/
It could be possible that "the other guys" just makes an inferior product!
NAPLES, Utah (ABC4) — Students in the Uintah School District will be returning to class on brand new school buses this fall after the district added 10 electric buses to its fleet.
The school district says the new buses are quieter and require less maintenance, meaning lower operational costs overall. Being electric, the school buses will also improve air quality with zero tailpipe emissions.
I also have an Amazon electric delivery van that comes on our street ever day.
SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (ABC4) – Salt Lake City and Provo residents will have their holiday packages from Amazon arriving in a new clean-air delivery truck. Amazon has sent a fleet of its new custom electric delivery vehicles (EDVs) to the Utah capital just in time for the holiday season.
Amazon launched the new vehicles during the summer in several cities across the United States. Now as part of the latest expansion to get 100,000 EDVs on the road by 2030, Salt Lake City and Provo join the list of cities with the clean-air fleet.
The school district says the new buses are quieter and require less maintenance, meaning lower operational costs overall. Being electric, the school buses will also improve air quality with zero tailpipe emissions.
I also have an Amazon electric delivery van that comes on our street ever day.
SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (ABC4) – Salt Lake City and Provo residents will have their holiday packages from Amazon arriving in a new clean-air delivery truck. Amazon has sent a fleet of its new custom electric delivery vehicles (EDVs) to the Utah capital just in time for the holiday season.
Amazon launched the new vehicles during the summer in several cities across the United States. Now as part of the latest expansion to get 100,000 EDVs on the road by 2030, Salt Lake City and Provo join the list of cities with the clean-air fleet.
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