Entry level gigabit switches for home use

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Assuming one wants something with 8 ports and gigabit connectivity for home use, are any of those entry level switches from Linksys, D-Link, Netgear, 3Com better than others? Any recommendations?

For example, I read somewhere that the D-Link switch would drop all connectivity to 100 Mbps if a device that can't support 1 Gbps was plugged into one of its ports.

FYI, my notebook is the only device that can actually operate at 1 Gbps speed, but I want to be future-proof.
 
Hey Pete.

Your not looking in to Wifi right just wired ... ?
I would recommend some hardware that you will be able to run DD-WRT or Tomato and rest of software

dd-wrt.com you should look at forum there...
 
Originally Posted By: Ndx
Hey Pete.

Your not looking in to Wifi right just wired ... ?

Correct.

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I would recommend some hardware that you will be able to run DD-WRT or Tomato and rest of software

dd-wrt.com you should look at forum there...

You must be thinking about a router. I already have one and am running Tomato on it.

But I'm talking about a switch here (router will be plugged into it, among other devices). These entry level switches are unmanaged, so you can't play around with their firmware.
 
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete

For example, I read somewhere that the D-Link switch would drop all connectivity to 100 Mbps if a device that can't support 1 Gbps was plugged into one of its ports.


I've used some off-brand gigabit switches and never encountered any problems with them except for the power supply dying on one of them (cheap Chinese capacitors).

Any switch that would do as you described is defective. Indeed, one of the functions of a switch is to interconnect different speed devices!

Right now I have a Trendnet 5-port gigabit switch and another brand of 5-port gigabit switch that I cannot recall right now (just found it, it's a Rosewill from Newegg that I got a rebate on).
 
Originally Posted By: brianl703
Any switch that would do as you described is defective. Indeed, one of the functions of a switch is to interconnect different speed devices!

You would think so, but this is not the first time I've seen D-Link make it a "feature". For example, a while back they had a USB 2.0 hub that would drop all communications down to USB 1.0 speeds the moment you plugged into it one device that was not capable of USB 2.0 speeds.
 
That's USB, and that's a hub, a different animal.

A proper Ethernet switch will buffer communications between ports that operate at different speeds.

If my no-name Gigabit switches are proper Ethernet switches, then I would expect the same of D-link or any other manufacturer (who, in all likelyhood, uses the same "switch on a chip" as the no-name manufacturers).
 
Originally Posted By: brianl703
A proper Ethernet switch will buffer communications between ports that operate at different speeds.

I agree with you. But I think I'll stay away from the D-Link, just in case. :)
 
Take OVERK1LL's advise and get an ASUS product. They are Pimpin' and built very well. I'm still thanking him for the router he told me to buy!
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I also second the D-LINK thing... I have had nothing but trouble with their products. Even when I sold the stuff back when I still had my small computer/network service company.
 
Asus and 3com are both solid.

It's sometimes better to try and find a fanless one or with a quiet one. NOISE can be a factor with some of the gigabit switches, especially as you move up to more ports.

FWIW, we have one of these on the home LAN, and it has given zero problems and sees a lot of packets:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833129035

It takes a lot of things to happen right to get true consistent GB traffic speeds. Don't expect GB speeds just because the boxes say so. Most GB NICs can't really handle GB speeds. There's some settings tweaking that's usually required at a minimum.
 
I use and recommend the GS108 gigabit switch from Netgear. Runs about $64 at http://www.newegg.com and other places.

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Assuming one wants something with 8 ports and gigabit connectivity for home use, are any of those entry level switches from Linksys, D-Link, Netgear, 3Com better than others? Any recommendations?

For example, I read somewhere that the D-Link switch would drop all connectivity to 100 Mbps if a device that can't support 1 Gbps was plugged into one of its ports.

FYI, my notebook is the only device that can actually operate at 1 Gbps speed, but I want to be future-proof.
 
Some of the switches, like that SMC that Volvohead posted support jumbo frames. Have any of you experimented with it? Has it improved speeds (assuming all your devices can support it, too)? Is it a feature worth getting?
 
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Some of the switches, like that SMC that Volvohead posted support jumbo frames. Have any of you experimented with it? Has it improved speeds (assuming all your devices can support it, too)? Is it a feature worth getting?


Check this article about jumbo frames.

From the article:

Why Jumbo Frames?

Every data unit on a network has to be assembled by the sender, and its headers have to be read by the network components between the sender and the receiver. The receiver then reads the frame and TCP/IP headers before processing the data. This activity, plus the headers added to frames and packets to get them from sender to receiver, consumes CPU cycles and bandwidth.

Sending data in jumbo frames means fewer frames are sent across the network. This generates improvements in CPU cycles and bandwidth. A single 9k jumbo frame replaces six 1.5k standard frames, producing a net reduction of five frames, with fewer CPU cycles consumed end to end. Further, only one TCP/IP header and Ethernet header is required instead of six, resulting in 290 (5*(40+18)) fewer bytes transmitted over the network.

It takes over 80,000 standard Ethernet frames per second to fill a gigabit Ethernet pipe, consuming a lot of CPU cycles and overhead. Sending the same data with 9k jumbo frames, only 14,000 frames need to be generated, with the reduction in header bytes freeing up 4 Mbps of bandwidth.

These savings in CPU cycles and bandwidth can produce some significant increases in network performance. In a 1999 study on jumbo frames over gigabit Ethernet, "Microsoft, Sun, Compaq, Hewlett-Packard, and IBM all recorded at least 50% increases in TCP throughput with reduced CPU utilization on single- and multi-processor systems using jumbo frames."
 
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Some of the switches, like that SMC that Volvohead posted support jumbo frames. Have any of you experimented with it? Has it improved speeds (assuming all your devices can support it, too)? Is it a feature worth getting?


Jumbo frames can be of real benefit with HW that supports it, such as a NAS working larger media files. If you can get it to work, yes it is worth it. But everything using the device must be at compatible settings, or jumbo frames can create more problems than it solves. Just clicking jumbo frames "on" with some Realtek based NICs is sometimes not enough. Tweaking the packet settings is sometimes needed and can be a big PITA.

Like I said above, getting the advertised speeds is easier said than done. One sloppily wired jack or a weak NIC can muss things up across a GB LAN. But when it works, it's a good thing to behold.

FWIW, that SMC switch can be panel mounted by swiveling the rack brackets and is small enough to sit on a shelf. No rack required, no external PS brick, and NO fan. It's a good unmanaged switch.
 
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