Drove a Tesla yesterday.

There probably aren't many $49k (-$7500) cars much less SUVs that can launch like that if that's your thing.
Its fun for a second and incredibly stupid after that. Good observation of the 7 mile loss... Its an ineffieicnt process regardless of EV or ICE.

Took my kids in one and we had great fun doing the launch, it was like an amusement ride... But after a while they asked if we could stop and drive gently... Smart kids.

My issue with the ability to accelerate like this is the idiots who want to accelerate into red lights, who rocket from a green light to race to the next red, etc. Its beyond stupid and wasteful, especially for those who wish to virtue signal how green they are by wasting electricity, tires, momentum, etc.

It just creates more unsafe driving behaviors...
 
I converted to full time role where I work and in the market for 500 mile/week(50 miles in 50 mins) commuter every other week.

Considering a used EV as they have free Level 2 charging at work.

Currently do that slog in daughter’s 2013 Acura ILX(fancy civic) however have to hand back by summer when she finishes freshmen year in college.
 
Its fun for a second and incredibly stupid after that. Good observation of the 7 mile loss... Its an ineffieicnt process regardless of EV or ICE.

Took my kids in one and we had great fun doing the launch, it was like an amusement ride... But after a while they asked if we could stop and drive gently... Smart kids.

My issue with the ability to accelerate like this is the idiots who want to accelerate into red lights, who rocket from a green light to race to the next red, etc. Its beyond stupid and wasteful, especially for those who wish to virtue signal how green they are by wasting electricity, tires, momentum, etc.

It just creates more unsafe driving behaviors...
True for some; not for others. IMO, fun cars never get old.
 
So something malfunctioned in my friend's Y and Tesla doesn't know what. Happens with ICE cars too.

@JeffKeryk , you're fixated on the high end extreme performance examples of EVs, that's cool, the rest of us would prefer something that would blend in with our dull plebeian lifestyles with minimal disruption. When our situation changes and we aren't pulling trailers or offroading we'll look at EVs, who knows?
Performance is one aspect, to be sure. We bought the base Model 3 in Dec 2018, the Mid Range RWD. We would still be driving it if it weren't for the improvements to the 2024 cars. I had no idea these cars would fit our use case as well as they do. This speaks to the whole package...

I tell perspective buyers the Model Y LR RWD probably makes the most sense. It's a nice package. While badly in need of the Juniper refresh, the Model Y is selling very well this year. Close to RAV4 sales I believe.
 
Its fun for a second and incredibly stupid after that. Good observation of the 7 mile loss... Its an ineffieicnt process regardless of EV or ICE.

Took my kids in one and we had great fun doing the launch, it was like an amusement ride... But after a while they asked if we could stop and drive gently... Smart kids.

My issue with the ability to accelerate like this is the idiots who want to accelerate into red lights, who rocket from a green light to race to the next red, etc. Its beyond stupid and wasteful, especially for those who wish to virtue signal how green they are by wasting electricity, tires, momentum, etc.

It just creates more unsafe driving behaviors...
Some people do same behavior with gas vehicles slow or fast. EVs just happen to be incredibly quick even the “slow ones” if you press them.

Seems like the energy braking gets converted back into charge. Maybe brakes engage a bit more which wear much slower anyway on hybrid / EV etc.
 
Some people do same behavior with gas vehicles slow or fast. EVs just happen to be incredibly quick even the “slow ones” if you press them.

Seems like the energy braking gets converted back into charge. Maybe brakes engage a bit more which wear much slower anyway on hybrid / EV etc.
Sure, idiocy abounds everywhere.

Energy recovery is great, but it’s not a good excuse for bad driving.

It’s tough to get the rear rotors consistently wearing on cars that regenerate.

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These are my accord hybrid rear rotors after 90k.

The tires also have 4/32 left after 90k. Driving smooth and careful pays dividends (even if those rotors look nasty - I guess I need to race to some red lights!).
 
I converted to full time role where I work and in the market for 500 mile/week(50 miles in 50 mins) commuter every other week.

Considering a used EV as they have free Level 2 charging at work.

Currently do that slog in daughter’s 2013 Acura ILX(fancy civic) however have to hand back by summer when she finishes freshmen year in college.
Hertz had a lot of them. They qualify for the up to $4000 tax incentive if under $25,000. 30% of the price up to $4000. Many areas have further incentives. Those Bolts look like unbelievable deals with all the incentives now.
 
I have a '21 Tesla Model 3 SR+. It's slow by comparison to the hot Teslas but it's faster than anything I've ever owned. And I like the Zoom factor. It's nice to be able to accelerate confidently and easily ahead of traffic bearing down on you in a merge lane.

Maintenance and repair costs to date after 3 years and 30,000 km: exactly $0.00, unless you count windshield washer fluid (which would make it as much as $5.00). My tires are wearing not very much and quite evenly after 30,000 km.

Most of my charging has been done at home. My average energy use over long periods varies between 136 and 139 W/km. At 11.7 cents (Cdn) per kW that's pretty cheap driving, especially in an area having very expensive gasoline. I have the perfect conditions for an EV: short distances, relatively low speeds (80 - 90 km/hr speed limits on the highways), mild climate, and able to charge at home.
 
1 YO Model Y, dual motor, extended range. Went to a retirement party BBQ for my former boss, was talking with a former coworker who retired some time ago and he said guess what he has a Tesla. Told him I've never even sat in one, he said come on then. He had me get in driver side, then explained the screens and about the regenerative braking then said put on your seat belt lets go for a ride. Had to do a 3 point turn to get going in the right direction, he said don't worry it won't let you hit anything. Really? Got going up the street and played with the pedal to get a feel for the 1 pedal driving deal. Interesting. Got onto the highway and he said get on it, I gave it some pedal and it took off and he said no, floor it, so I did. Now I know what everyone talks about. Let off around 60 and it was still pulling HARD. Took 7 miles off the range in a couple of seconds. Best automotive parlor trick ever. Can't imagine what Ludicrous mode feels like. There probably aren't many $49k (-$7500) cars much less SUVs that can launch like that if that's your thing.

So drove it a couple of miles down the road then back. He said hit it again but there was no need. I asked him about the car, did he like it, did he have range anxiety, has it had any problems...he likes it pretty well overall but after a year still some things he doesn't like. The glass roof is just too hot here in Arizona so he got a sunshade and still too hot so got some of that silver insulating sheet that's used on water heaters put between the glass roof and sunshade and that fixed that. Some things in the operating sequences in the different screens he doesn't like. He just had it to Tesla in Phx and had a faulty computer replaced and now the screens are different so he has to get used to how to operate some things again. He took a trip to California and the range dropped so fast in the heat while running the AC and seat coolers he almost ran out of battery and had to detour through a sketch part of a town to get to the closest charger with 2% remaining charge. You start a trip and it shows you your stops at chargers but recalculates as it goes. So he does worry about range. That was learning curve mistake. Also on return from a California trip he pulled off to charge and it wouldn't take a charge at all. It was hot but other Teslas were charging so he had to call Tesla and it was rollbacked to a service center where they couldn't duplicate the problem, it charged up. This required an overnight stay in a motel for 4 people. Something about the battery cooler wasn't set correctly or something so it was too hot to charge. He really likes the safety features (nanny stuff), says as he gets older he needs all the help he can get. He had to ask another Tesla owner at a charger once how to adjust the mirrors, he couldn't find the right screen. Still had to hunt for it to show me. Maybe you just say Hey Tesla adjust mirrors?

I looked it over and didn't see any fit/finish problems that people talk about. The interior is kinda plain. After a less than 10 minute drive I can't say I love it or hate it. I think we could get along with one fine but an EV doesn't fit our needs right now. There's probably a point where you'd just age out of being able to understand how to use it unless you're a computer geek. Glad I drove it but didn't move the needle for me either way.
The biggest issue is Tesla is Constantly changing or modifying parts to look like they're "Improving ". I worked for an independent dealership and Tesla treated my boss like garbage when he needed warranty repair on a 6 month old model x. This is also well documented. A couple of individuals (Tesla owners) on this board would claim that This is not possible. Two I don't care what people say, why support a company ran by a pathological liar? Musk has been claiming "Oh this year for sure " about level 5 for 11 years.
 
Two I don't care what people say, why support a company ran by a pathological liar? Musk has been claiming "Oh this year for sure " about level 5 for 11 years.
Looking at your fleet you're not exactly supporting any make with your newest almost 20 YO. Your Tesla/Musk hate is well documented here. Would you buy one if Musk wasn't involved? Not likely. Have you driven one?
 
The Model Y Long Range is 3.5 to 60, that's what I was referring to. Very happy for you for the sub 3 0-60. I was asking if you Mr. Tesla driver have to do anything, like turn on battery cooling or something if you're driving in 110+ heat and going to a Supercharger that's scheduled on the route the Tesla planned out for you?

How often do you do sub 3 0-60 rips?
When ever possible.
 
Its fun for a second and incredibly stupid after that. Good observation of the 7 mile loss... Its an ineffieicnt process regardless of EV or ICE.

Took my kids in one and we had great fun doing the launch, it was like an amusement ride... But after a while they asked if we could stop and drive gently... Smart kids.

My issue with the ability to accelerate like this is the idiots who want to accelerate into red lights, who rocket from a green light to race to the next red, etc. Its beyond stupid and wasteful, especially for those who wish to virtue signal how green they are by wasting electricity, tires, momentum, etc.

It just creates more unsafe driving behaviors...
People do the same with gas cars.
 
The biggest issue is Tesla is Constantly changing or modifying parts to look like they're "Improving ".
Do the improved parts fit?

Isn't that what you'd do with a model or a system that you're manufacturing over a period of many years? You realize you didn't get it quite right the first time, so you improve the part (but wherever possible make sure it still works with older models). I think that's a sound approach. Better than making a part you know will fail or doesn't work as good as it should.
 
The biggest issue is Tesla is Constantly changing or modifying parts to look like they're "Improving ". I worked for an independent dealership and Tesla treated my boss like garbage when he needed warranty repair on a 6 month old model x. This is also well documented. A couple of individuals (Tesla owners) on this board would claim that This is not possible. Two I don't care what people say, why support a company ran by a pathological liar? Musk has been claiming "Oh this year for sure " about level 5 for 11 years.
It's called "continuous improvement" and is well known in manufacturing quality circles.
 
Do the improved parts fit?

Isn't that what you'd do with a model or a system that you're manufacturing over a period of many years? You realize you didn't get it quite right the first time, so you improve the part (but wherever possible make sure it still works with older models). I think that's a sound approach. Better than making a part you know will fail or doesn't work as good as it should.
The model y has three to four frunk latch variations in the first year alone. If Tesla bungled a latch mechanism up then they need different engineers.
 
The model y has three to four frunk latch variations in the first year alone. If Tesla bungled a latch mechanism up then they need different engineers.
The Model Y has been a huge success story. For the last few years it has been #1 or close selling car in the world and it ain't exactly an inexpensive Corolla... Even though it's due for the Juniper refresh, it is this year too. Owners love 'em.

I guess they should fire all those engineers?
 
My brother bought a Tesla S Plaid 3 yrs ago. He passed a few years ago so I can't speak to how it has held up, but I remember he had flats too often for it to be a reliable mode of transportation (for me). He had to get Tesla come change them of tow him if I remember right. Maybe the tires are thin for weight saving? I have not seen anyone mention this. And it did not feel like a $135K car when you got in. I mean I know where they spent the money-on the drivetrain. That thing was fast. But he said it got scary above 100, the handling. Probably reminded him of the Kawasaki H3 he had when we were kids.
 
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