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Originally Posted By: ls1mike
Ford guys get touchy when you mention LS1, because it made them hurt...for years. When MM and FF tested one bone stock and ran 12.89 in the heat guys still were like "Well..." My 01 Trapped 110 bone stock with temp tags and 151 miles on it. The WS6 and 98 Z28 trapped 108 bone stock.
All in good fun.
Do you blame us? LOL! The LS1 was what the Windsor would/should have been if Ford had updated it instead of foisting the small bore 1st gen Modular on us, which was in itself a compromise of the original 4" bore design that was resurrected as Hurricane more than a decade later (the big SOHC truck motor, the 6.2L). All because some bean counter wanted it to fit in a FWD application and it wouldn't with the original dimensions. So we got saddled with an engine with no aftermarket support, [censored] rods, asthmatic heads, turderiffic intake and couldn't make power on the cheap like the engine it replaced could. It was a boatload of suck.
Now mind you a properly warmed over 32V Modular could make some great power in the right hands, but that's not the engine the guys buying the GT's got. They got the extremely limited 2V engine. The holy grail was of course the Termi with its 1000+HP capable stock bottom-end and deep breathing heads. It was born for boost. But again, that's not your average Mustang, and with a 2 year production run and it STILL commanding a premium... well.
The pre-Coyote cars were IMHO some dark days for the Mustang. I wouldn't own one that wasn't a Termi, just not worth it. In fact the Termi was what I was cross-shopping with the M5. The M5 won due to simply being a better and more practical car. But I have a soft spot in my heart for the Terminator nonetheless, it was good strong competition for the last-gen F-body boys
Ford guys get touchy when you mention LS1, because it made them hurt...for years. When MM and FF tested one bone stock and ran 12.89 in the heat guys still were like "Well..." My 01 Trapped 110 bone stock with temp tags and 151 miles on it. The WS6 and 98 Z28 trapped 108 bone stock.
All in good fun.
Do you blame us? LOL! The LS1 was what the Windsor would/should have been if Ford had updated it instead of foisting the small bore 1st gen Modular on us, which was in itself a compromise of the original 4" bore design that was resurrected as Hurricane more than a decade later (the big SOHC truck motor, the 6.2L). All because some bean counter wanted it to fit in a FWD application and it wouldn't with the original dimensions. So we got saddled with an engine with no aftermarket support, [censored] rods, asthmatic heads, turderiffic intake and couldn't make power on the cheap like the engine it replaced could. It was a boatload of suck.
Now mind you a properly warmed over 32V Modular could make some great power in the right hands, but that's not the engine the guys buying the GT's got. They got the extremely limited 2V engine. The holy grail was of course the Termi with its 1000+HP capable stock bottom-end and deep breathing heads. It was born for boost. But again, that's not your average Mustang, and with a 2 year production run and it STILL commanding a premium... well.
The pre-Coyote cars were IMHO some dark days for the Mustang. I wouldn't own one that wasn't a Termi, just not worth it. In fact the Termi was what I was cross-shopping with the M5. The M5 won due to simply being a better and more practical car. But I have a soft spot in my heart for the Terminator nonetheless, it was good strong competition for the last-gen F-body boys
