We will all find out soon enough. Personally i rather believe and find out i was right than not believe and find out i was wrong.
Does the Soul Exist?
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This is pseudoscience of the worst sort.
Not only does biocentrism not rise to the level of a scientific theory, it's not even a valid hypothesis because it is not testable.
And then you have statements such as this that simple boggle the mind:
"We think life is just the activity of atoms and particles, which spin around for a while and then dissipate into nothingness."
If you develop a hypothesis that fundamentally claims that the laws of conservation of mass and energy are invalid, then you need to lock yourself in a lab and beat yourself over the head with a physics textbook until the information contained therein diffuses through your pores into your brain cells.
Not only does biocentrism not rise to the level of a scientific theory, it's not even a valid hypothesis because it is not testable.
And then you have statements such as this that simple boggle the mind:
"We think life is just the activity of atoms and particles, which spin around for a while and then dissipate into nothingness."
If you develop a hypothesis that fundamentally claims that the laws of conservation of mass and energy are invalid, then you need to lock yourself in a lab and beat yourself over the head with a physics textbook until the information contained therein diffuses through your pores into your brain cells.
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If we get away from the religous notion of the term soul, I think we can all agree that it does exist in the context of us all being unique.
We all have different personalities, we all think a little bit differently and we all view things in different ways.
You can see it here.
Let's assume that we all have a level of knowledge that's broadly similar.
Most of us have owned a number of machines over the years and have done most of the maintenance and repair of them ourselves.
What what member would consider inconsequetial another member would consider to be of great moment.
A trivial example, but one that exemplifies the notion of having a soul.
The notion of having a soul is an expression of what seperates our view of the world and everything in it from that of anyone else.
Does the soul exist physically and is it eternal?
We'll all find out one of these days, since we're all inevitably going into that dark night.
We all have different personalities, we all think a little bit differently and we all view things in different ways.
You can see it here.
Let's assume that we all have a level of knowledge that's broadly similar.
Most of us have owned a number of machines over the years and have done most of the maintenance and repair of them ourselves.
What what member would consider inconsequetial another member would consider to be of great moment.
A trivial example, but one that exemplifies the notion of having a soul.
The notion of having a soul is an expression of what seperates our view of the world and everything in it from that of anyone else.
Does the soul exist physically and is it eternal?
We'll all find out one of these days, since we're all inevitably going into that dark night.
Originally Posted By: Smokescreen
If it didn't exist our existence here would be a waste.
No way. This life is what you make of it, don't let [censored] superstition define it for you.
If it didn't exist our existence here would be a waste.
No way. This life is what you make of it, don't let [censored] superstition define it for you.
Originally Posted By: fdcg27
If we get away from the religous notion of the term soul, I think we can all agree that it does exist in the context of us all being unique.
We all have different personalities, we all think a little bit differently and we all view things in different ways.
You can see it here.
Let's assume that we all have a level of knowledge that's broadly similar.
Most of us have owned a number of machines over the years and have done most of the maintenance and repair of them ourselves.
What what member would consider inconsequetial another member would consider to be of great moment.
A trivial example, but one that exemplifies the notion of having a soul.
The notion of having a soul is an expression of what seperates our view of the world and everything in it from that of anyone else.
Does the soul exist physically and is it eternal?
We'll all find out one of these days, since we're all inevitably going into that dark night.
Basically you are describing consciousness (in the philosophy sense, not medical). There is no doubt it exists and it's hard coded in the network of neuronal connections as well as the memories and such. Using this analogy, complex computers may have some primitive consciousness, say at the level of primitive life like bacteria or protozoa. This is not my original idea. I stole it from Lem's writing.
If we get away from the religous notion of the term soul, I think we can all agree that it does exist in the context of us all being unique.
We all have different personalities, we all think a little bit differently and we all view things in different ways.
You can see it here.
Let's assume that we all have a level of knowledge that's broadly similar.
Most of us have owned a number of machines over the years and have done most of the maintenance and repair of them ourselves.
What what member would consider inconsequetial another member would consider to be of great moment.
A trivial example, but one that exemplifies the notion of having a soul.
The notion of having a soul is an expression of what seperates our view of the world and everything in it from that of anyone else.
Does the soul exist physically and is it eternal?
We'll all find out one of these days, since we're all inevitably going into that dark night.
Basically you are describing consciousness (in the philosophy sense, not medical). There is no doubt it exists and it's hard coded in the network of neuronal connections as well as the memories and such. Using this analogy, complex computers may have some primitive consciousness, say at the level of primitive life like bacteria or protozoa. This is not my original idea. I stole it from Lem's writing.
we definitely have a soul. They should talk about how WE have a spirit and a soul.
I liked how the article said:
"Yet, the current scientific paradigm doesn't recognize this spiritual dimension of life. We're told we're just the activity of carbon and some proteins; we live awhile and die"
300 yrs ago, go up to to any human and say our human bodies are made out of carbon, proteins, water but say we have no soul. I wonder who would be called the crazy person back then?
I liked how the article said:
"Yet, the current scientific paradigm doesn't recognize this spiritual dimension of life. We're told we're just the activity of carbon and some proteins; we live awhile and die"
300 yrs ago, go up to to any human and say our human bodies are made out of carbon, proteins, water but say we have no soul. I wonder who would be called the crazy person back then?
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
There is no doubt it exists and it's hard coded in the network of neuronal connections as well as the memories and such.
Ever hear of those head injuries or strokes, etc, where the person wakes up with a completely different personality? Not just memory loss.
Seems like its not 'hard coded' if it can be undone and isn't a good definition of a 'soul'.
Cutehumor - 300 years ago we thought the world was flat, also.
There is no doubt it exists and it's hard coded in the network of neuronal connections as well as the memories and such.
Ever hear of those head injuries or strokes, etc, where the person wakes up with a completely different personality? Not just memory loss.
Seems like its not 'hard coded' if it can be undone and isn't a good definition of a 'soul'.
Cutehumor - 300 years ago we thought the world was flat, also.
I have been with a number of people when they died. More than once, they have spoken of things they were seeing which sounded "heavenly" (i.e. beings in the room no one else could see or "visions" of what was beyond). Many times, at the moment of death, I have seen individuals sit up on their death bed and reach up, as though someone was reaching down to them.
I have also personally seen paranormal activity. For about six months, we lived in a "haunted" house - of course we didn't know it was "haunted" till after we moved in. Things happened in that house that could not be explained, (and I honestly tried to find an explanation). Things moved around and stacked up in the middle of rooms. One day I walked into the kitchen and all our steak knives where jammed into the door frame around our pantry. Objects flew across the room and crashed into the wall. Clothing in the laundry basket would be ripped to shreds, (not all the clothes - it would be one shirt ripped to shreds in a basket full of clothes). I saw all these things and many others with my own eyes.
All of these things and events convinces me there is an unseen spiritual world all around us. I am a Christian, but even if I was an atheist, I would be hard pressed in the light of these happenings to deny the spiritual aspect of the world we live in.
I have also personally seen paranormal activity. For about six months, we lived in a "haunted" house - of course we didn't know it was "haunted" till after we moved in. Things happened in that house that could not be explained, (and I honestly tried to find an explanation). Things moved around and stacked up in the middle of rooms. One day I walked into the kitchen and all our steak knives where jammed into the door frame around our pantry. Objects flew across the room and crashed into the wall. Clothing in the laundry basket would be ripped to shreds, (not all the clothes - it would be one shirt ripped to shreds in a basket full of clothes). I saw all these things and many others with my own eyes.
All of these things and events convinces me there is an unseen spiritual world all around us. I am a Christian, but even if I was an atheist, I would be hard pressed in the light of these happenings to deny the spiritual aspect of the world we live in.
None of us really knows until we die, so why waste time worrying about it?
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
None of us really knows until we die, so why waste time worrying about it?
For the simply reason we all have to die.
None of us really knows until we die, so why waste time worrying about it?
For the simply reason we all have to die.
Originally Posted By: surfstar
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
There is no doubt it exists and it's hard coded in the network of neuronal connections as well as the memories and such.
Ever hear of those head injuries or strokes, etc, where the person wakes up with a completely different personality? Not just memory loss.
Seems like its not 'hard coded' if it can be undone and isn't a good definition of a 'soul'.
I think the issue is purely semantic. How do you define soul?
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
There is no doubt it exists and it's hard coded in the network of neuronal connections as well as the memories and such.
Ever hear of those head injuries or strokes, etc, where the person wakes up with a completely different personality? Not just memory loss.
Seems like its not 'hard coded' if it can be undone and isn't a good definition of a 'soul'.
I think the issue is purely semantic. How do you define soul?
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
I think the issue is purely semantic. How do you define soul?
I'm not sure one exists, so I wouldn't be sure on how to define it.
I get caught up on which animals would have 'souls' and why one and not the other? All mammals? Only primates? No insects of course, right? I can't see a reason to draw the line somewhere, so I don't see how it could be defined.
I think the issue is purely semantic. How do you define soul?
I'm not sure one exists, so I wouldn't be sure on how to define it.
I get caught up on which animals would have 'souls' and why one and not the other? All mammals? Only primates? No insects of course, right? I can't see a reason to draw the line somewhere, so I don't see how it could be defined.
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Originally Posted By: GreeCguy
I have been with a number of people when they died. More than once, they have spoken of things they were seeing which sounded "heavenly" (i.e. beings in the room no one else could see or "visions" of what was beyond). Many times, at the moment of death, I have seen individuals sit up on their death bed and reach up, as though someone was reaching down to them.
Might be their brains shooting their last neurons and calming the body before the body dies, possibly flooding memories of loved ones and expectations of what they feel heaven should be.
It is often recorded from near-drowning incidents that after the initial panic, a peaceful calm comes over the person, with many describing it as the most peaceful emotion ever.
I have been with a number of people when they died. More than once, they have spoken of things they were seeing which sounded "heavenly" (i.e. beings in the room no one else could see or "visions" of what was beyond). Many times, at the moment of death, I have seen individuals sit up on their death bed and reach up, as though someone was reaching down to them.
Might be their brains shooting their last neurons and calming the body before the body dies, possibly flooding memories of loved ones and expectations of what they feel heaven should be.
It is often recorded from near-drowning incidents that after the initial panic, a peaceful calm comes over the person, with many describing it as the most peaceful emotion ever.
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