Dodge Hornets are dropping like flies.

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I have a lot of seat time in the PHEV Hornet/Tonale twins, have not driven the pure ICE examples, and it’s a shame Stellantis has fumbled on this vehicle.

They drive better than most if not all of their competitors. 0-60 around 5.5 seconds, easy 35 miles of all electric range, responsive steering, composed ride quality, appropriate interior material quality.
 
Nessism1 said:
I'd consider one for the right price, but there are nightmare stories about reliability issues, and worse, poor part supply. You could be without your vehicle for an extended period of time waiting for parts.

The reason I was checking them out is because of the 268hp 2.0L engine, and smaller size. I know some people want bigger is better, but I'd like something medium small.
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What would the right price be?
 
gfh77665 said:
I learned to drive in a '64 Dodge Dart. No radio, no carpeting, no A/C. It had a 170 CI motor. "Three on the tree" manual trans.

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That 170 was the baby Slant Six. There was the 198 as well, and the legendary 225.

My driver-ed car was a newish green AMC Hornet - 3 on the floor. Summer of '73. Probably an inline-6, but I wouldn't have had a clue back then.
 
macarose said:
Carvana was offering a 2024 Dodge Hornet R/T Plus for $22,100 with just under 7,500 miles this afternoon at their online dealer-only sale. These have an MSRP of around $50k when new.

Guess how many bids they got? Nada! Zip!

Part of the issue comes from their inability to even get minor repairs done before they liquidate their wholesale inventory. This one needed an auxiliary battery and a 12 volt because it had sat too long. The car has about a dozen codes that are attributable to the fact that the powertrains on these units don't like to sit for long periods of time.

https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/lt/...mpaign=new-vdp&utm_content=3_20250601_3716953

But there are other major issues as well. Stellantis already has 428 days of inventory for the Hornet. The severely overwhelmed 1.3 Liter engine and the plug-in hybrid technology are just not ready for prime time. Or any prolonged ownership history.

This one is also not eligible for the EV used car tax credit since it's a 2024. To be frank with you, I wouldn't be surprised if Carvana slashes the price down another $10,000 just to get it down the road. Even then I would tell any buyer of it to get an extended warranty.

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Who are the idiots who keep buying Fiats? Fiat's reputation has been in the toilet each year they sold in the US. Who. Buys. These?!? Then there are the other BS Stallantis offerings...
 
TomYoung said:
At $12,100, I would very seriously consider writing the check. While these cars are no victories, and are a marketing catastrophe "severely overwhelmed" is not a fair characterization. That powertrain delivers somewhere between 5.1 and 5.3 second zero to sixty times.
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What good is that "deal" if the the car has significant problems, and is made by a company with significant bad reputation, and a company owned by it's conglomerate that has a significant bad reputation?
 
TXCarGeek said:
I have a lot of seat time in the PHEV Hornet/Tonale twins, have not driven the pure ICE examples, and it’s a shame Stellantis has fumbled on this vehicle.

They drive better than most if not all of their competitors. 0-60 around 5.5 seconds, easy 35 miles of all electric range, responsive steering, composed ride quality, appropriate interior material quality.
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I've been debating if I want to get one, non-hybrid. From what I've seen online, people are at both extremes, they either have zero problems and love the thing, or they're going to lemon-law the vehicle as soon as they can.
 
opus1 said:
I've been debating if I want to get one, non-hybrid. From what I've seen online, people are at both extremes, they either have zero problems and love the thing, or they're going to lemon-law the vehicle as soon as they can.
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My parents were looking at leasing a Tonale—I was finding deals under $300/month for 2 years at 15k miles/yr with only first payment due at signing to replace the aging Cadillac ELR with 170k miles. Ended up not doing it because their other lease is ending soon and mom wants a large SUV…all that to say perhaps you should look into leasing one because if you do some shopping, there’s some crazy lease deals on Hornets and Tonales.
 
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opus1 said:
I've been debating if I want to get one, non-hybrid. From what I've seen online, people are at both extremes, they either have zero problems and love the thing, or they're going to lemon-law the vehicle as soon as they can.
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I’m a member of the leasehackr forum on saw this today. I know it’s a plug in hybrid and you’re looking for the non PHEV but figured I’d give you an example of what’s out there

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cptbarkey said:
that is what I would call an "optimistic" offer.

"there aint nothing that price cant fix."
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Here’s the worksheet for a PHEV Tonale I received from Northside Imports in Houston back in April.

27 month term, 15k/yr, 1st payment DAS.

Deals are probably even better now through the end of the month.

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TXCarGeek said:
I’m a member of the leasehackr forum on saw this today. I know it’s a plug in hybrid and you’re looking for the non PHEV but figured I’d give you an example of what’s out there

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Wow! That's $9927 plus tax, tag and title which would add about $800 more here in Georgia.

$10727 for 15,000 miles of driving over two years. Then there is the disposition fee from Dodge as the cherry on top. That's just brutal.
 
macarose said:
Wow! That's $9927 plus tax, tag and title which would add about $800 more here in Georgia.

$10727 for 15,000 miles of driving over two years. Then there is the disposition fee from Dodge as the cherry on top. That's just brutal.
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Yeah, the deal I worked out with Northside imports on a Tonale was much better than the generic one posted on leasehackr. $9384 including ttl for 30k miles over 2 years.
 
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