All. Like falling knives.
Dodge Hornets are dropping like flies.
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This thing desperately needed a manual transmission. Then it might be fun to drive at least.
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Funny you say that.
C&D seem to think it's quite engaging in stock form
Source: https://www.caranddriver.com/dodge/hornet
What is the drivetrain? Nowhere it says anything about what it is...a hybrid, E drive, gas motor...what. Carfax says two owners. the other check says one. Says it's not available now, think it sold?
Hybrid is less engaging compared to the 2.0T, it seems
They took away the V8’s then tried gas lighting everyone into an EV or a compact crossover, 2 things nobody in the history of ever asked Dodge to make.
I wonder if you could cram a 3.6 into it… not yet driven the 2.0 turbo as a gas only option, only as a PHEV in a Grand Cherokee where it definitely doesn’t have enough power on its own.
All Hornet R/T’s have the 1.3L 4 banger. GT’s got the 2.0 hurricane.
That being said… I’d consider one for $12k. But they’re A. Turbo and B. Direct injected so no, I refuse to buy anything with direct injection only.
I've been driving Alfa Romeo's since 2001, but didn't want a Tonale/Hornet. The one with the 1.3 engine costs twice what the MG costs, weighs 1000 pounds more and is smaller inside. No major issues going on with the MG either, customer satisfaction complaints are about features not working like people want and getting scammed into early brake changes.
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I've seen one one the road, at a gas station. The driver had on a Jeep/Dodge/ Chrysler polo shirt. Probably an employee.
A six-speed manufacturer transmission and a twin scroll turbo.
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You guys are forgetting a few things here...
- These used to sell NEW for that price here and there, last year. There were brand new ones, dealership lot monuments, that were going for $25k. At some point The Autopian was following these and publishing which dealership had them.
- Italians, despite FIAT, are good engineers. Ethiopia still had working and overworked steam locomotives left from the Italians 90ish years ago, at least they did in the 2010s.
Industrial machinery, tools - you name it. They are second to none.
- It's just that the cars, the second they get touched by FIAT, become an exercise in funny stuff.
You have to respect, and bow to, the dedication, the effort, the generational knowledge, that goes into these things.
It is one thing to do a car, or a series of cars, or a generation of cars that are unreliable in a comical way.
It is yet a whole different level to stay consistently, comically bad for 50+ years. This requires dedication and concerted effort. Messing up electrics and carburation in the 70s is one thing. Consistently messing up EVERYTHING that has to even remotely deal with electrics or fuel, THROUGHOUT different decades, to this very day, requires creativity and deep knoweledge. I submit that if they didn't know electrics and fuel delivery, they'd have hit a few reliable models by sheer tyrany of statistics. To consistently and repeatedly output crappy vehicles is a whole science that requires in depth knowledge at several levels - engineering, manufacturing, production, HR, QC - you name it.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. To never show the right time, you need someone to deliberately move the clock's hands twice a day, lest it shows the correct time.
- These used to sell NEW for that price here and there, last year. There were brand new ones, dealership lot monuments, that were going for $25k. At some point The Autopian was following these and publishing which dealership had them.
- Italians, despite FIAT, are good engineers. Ethiopia still had working and overworked steam locomotives left from the Italians 90ish years ago, at least they did in the 2010s.
Industrial machinery, tools - you name it. They are second to none.
- It's just that the cars, the second they get touched by FIAT, become an exercise in funny stuff.
You have to respect, and bow to, the dedication, the effort, the generational knowledge, that goes into these things.
It is one thing to do a car, or a series of cars, or a generation of cars that are unreliable in a comical way.
It is yet a whole different level to stay consistently, comically bad for 50+ years. This requires dedication and concerted effort. Messing up electrics and carburation in the 70s is one thing. Consistently messing up EVERYTHING that has to even remotely deal with electrics or fuel, THROUGHOUT different decades, to this very day, requires creativity and deep knoweledge. I submit that if they didn't know electrics and fuel delivery, they'd have hit a few reliable models by sheer tyrany of statistics. To consistently and repeatedly output crappy vehicles is a whole science that requires in depth knowledge at several levels - engineering, manufacturing, production, HR, QC - you name it.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. To never show the right time, you need someone to deliberately move the clock's hands twice a day, lest it shows the correct time.
I don't see a good future for Stellantis in America.
Was that "falling leaves" before spell-check got to it?
No. It is correct. Google it.
^^Thanks. It pays to improve ones vocabulary.
Futile Italian Attempt at Transportation. Hey, I'm Italian!
Less than $1000 over MSRP - it's a deal!
Should I go for it?
There sure are some ambitious dealerships in Winnipeg!
Our local small dealers have a few Hornets kicking around, but I noticed a few months ago that the big volume dealers didn't bring many in, and got rid of them months ago...
The local dealer has the PHEV Hornets $13k off but they still are $54k... Ouch, I'm not sure who is going to buy that, but they aren't for me!
Honestly the prices are a few thousand higher for the new examples compared to about 4-5 months ago.
Used are similar in price to new with 50k on the clock, not sure I’m brave enough to touch one
Used are similar in price to new with 50k on the clock, not sure I’m brave enough to touch one
The Italians know scuba gear(Scubapro, Mares, Cressi-Sub), bikes, supercars, trains(though, San Francisco had nothing but problems with their Breda LRVs, Leonardo fka AnasaldoBreda sold their train business to Hitachi Rail), aviation(again, Leonardo but Airbus and GE have operations in Italy - Fiat Avio played a important role with the GE90/NX/CF6) and civil engineering.
It’s the same Detroit conundrum - they focused on what’s easy to make and profitable for a niche market but fail to make their bread and butter something consumers want to buy. Happened in the 70s, during a recession and again now. It’s what happens when you sell rebadged/reengineered Daewoo or Opel(GM, also when they owned Opel) or Mitsubishi/Fiat/Alfa Romeo(Mopar) and yet, people still choose Toyota, Honda or HyunKia if they don’t want a V8 muscle car(Mopar) or a full-size truck/SUV(GM/Ford). At least Ford had a little better luck with the Focus/Fusion.