Differential temperature?

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What is a normal temp, and what is too hot? I'm towing near the max.
After getting home i IR gunned the black diff cover, it was 215F The last 5-8 miles were at 45mph or so, ran an hour at 65mph, then the last 5-8 miles at 45, so would it have cooled much in the last few miles? Ambient temp 94F.

Is that too hot? My rear has 85-140 non syn. Will that heat damage the gasket? It has a lock right locker.
 
215 is normal, especially with the heat we're in.

You sure it's a Lockright and not the factory Govlock (G80)?

Lockrights fit into a factory open carrier. Either case, it won't affect diff temp when driving.
 
215 is normal, especially with the heat we're in.

You sure it's a Lockright and not the factory Govlock (G80)?

Lockrights fit into a factory open carrier. Either case, it won't affect diff temp when driving.

Thanks! Yes its not factory, East Coast Gear rebuilt it.
 
215F is not only high , but too high imo .
I would upgrade the GL5 to a thicker SAE140 monograde KV40 of 430 - 480 cSt preferably .
Alternatively a KV40 380 cSt in another 85W140 may be considered , if as-is KV40 in use is 280ish or thereabout .
 
I’ve only had one get that hot to my knowledge once, and it was a rough, rough tow, and within a couple of months one wheel bearing started talking badly. It was a Toyota axle and they use sealed, not cartridge, bearings. That seems a bit high to me. are you driving aggressively? What’s the gearing?

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In my 3500, weighing in at 33k combined. maybe 100km trip, up to highway speeds for most. 168f on group 4 based 80w140. I think maybe 15C ambient.
 
Nothing aggressive. 3.73 rear. Trailer is about 6800lbs.

I had a 2003 Z71 Silverado. Same ratio and 3.73 gears. 215*F at max load in 94*F heat is fine. It 's a 10 bolt c-clip axle pulling at least 12,000 lbs.
Certainly no need for a SAE140! The 85W140 you have is fine. Little axle plus weight equals a little heat when it's hot outside.
 
Here's a post from "The Diesel Stop" forum in regard to the diff temp discussion they had.

"I think this is all good information and a learning experience that towing can really up your diff temps. I talked to two diff shops today and asked them what temps they have seen. Their answers were basicly the same. Both of them said that normal diff temps are between 140 and 190 deg F depending on your axle ratio. A 4:11 gear will run hotter than a 3:73 or 3:55. Towing adds more temp and normal for less than 10K towing is 200 to 230 deg F. "
 
What is a normal temp, and what is too hot? I'm towing near the max.
After getting home i IR gunned the black diff cover, it was 215F The last 5-8 miles were at 45mph or so, ran an hour at 65mph, then the last 5-8 miles at 45, so would it have cooled much in the last few miles? Ambient temp 94F.

Is that too hot? My rear has 85-140 non syn. Will that heat damage the gasket? It has a lock right locker.

"normal" depends on the fluid specifications but more importantly on the accuracy of the temp.

OEM's of fluid give you the temps of their product as determined in a sump in the middle ( as per most process requirements in industry)

The skin temp of the diff taken with an IR gun without knowing the emissivity and range and location of the surface temp ( as well as the condition) is not an accurate indicator of the actual core fluid temp.

Also, a working fluid ( normally thinned and aerated) has to settle to get a correct static temperature.

This is a semi complex science on heat transfer and accurate measuring but you would be more accurate in actual fluid temp to get a VOM with a K type probe and stick it in the fluid center after about 10 minutes setting (fluid setting) still rather than relying on a skin temperature for raw data.

The other part is there is more than one correct answer to normal ( or acceptable) because each component ( seals, bearings, gears, gaskets) each have different thresholds of what is and is not acceptable and ranges of exceeding them.

In general 100F above ambient is a good average but then that's the fluid, not the skin so to be accurate there needs to be correlation factors

Just advice for those who really intend to use these numbers- the first step is to ensure the accuracy of them.
 
My rear axle with 75W-140 and 4.10 gears runs 205°F unloaded at highway speeds.
 
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Temperature today after towing 8,000 lb trailer at 65 MPH about 300 miles in 90F heat.
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Thanks Wayne! I think from what others post that I'm ok, but i'm maxed out towing. Larger truck in the plans for next year. Looks like you have a lot more capacity in that 3500 than you are using, it should last a long time!
 
FWIW I routinely see 180-185 degrees driving out west with the 240 wagon fully loaded. Dana 30 with Castrol 80W90 conventional.
 

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