Decided to try PureOne in my wife's '06 Pilot

[mfisher1967]

Drained Mobil 1 5W-20 and filled with Pennzoil Platinum 5W-20 last weekend. The Pennzoil Platinum seems to make the engine idle a little smoother so far. I also used a PureOne oil filter, which I purchased at my local AA (PL14610 I think).

First Impressions:
The filter has a reddish/orange sealing ring that is slightly dark. The sealing ring was clean, but at first glance I thought that it was dirty.

The steel center tube does not extend all the way down to the bottom of the oil filter. There is ~1/4" of open area below the center tube where one can see the filter media.

Gently shaking the filter produces a sound that something is moving back and forth inside the filter's housing. Could this be the relief valve's spring?

What an ugly paint job...Yuck! I know, I am splitting hairs on this one.

Anyway, only used oil analysis will tell how this filter performs. I do like the EAO13 better in terms of quality and feel. I know that the PurOne is less than 1/2 the cost of the EAO, but it is considered to be a "Top Shelf" filter as well. As I stated before, used oil analysis will drive my filter selection, but Amsoil has done a good job with the EAO line.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Pure Ones are all you need for quality filtering and extended drains to match the Platinum's life of service.

 

[The Critic]

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Pure Ones are all you need for quality filtering and extended drains to match the Platinum's life of service.

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Agreed, although an "economy" filter from Champs, Fram, or Purolator would accomplish the same task and it is very unlikely that one would notice the difference in engine life or performance because of the filter used.

 

[Gary Allan]

Yeah- yeah ...and Kathy Bates can perform many of the same tasks as Stephanie Seymour. Which one would you pick if you had a choice.


Just keep working on that vulcanized condom recycling process....

In many applications ..the el cheapo offerings will evidence ADBV fatigue and have start up rattle. If I used one of those filters, as our rhetorically frugal Critic suggests, I wouldn't be wasting money on good synthetic. He wouldn't either. As 777 says, a PureOne is well matched for the life of the oil you've selected. It will outlive the oil in most people's usage.

I wouldn't use either a good filter or synthetic unless I could get added utility out of both.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

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Pure Ones are all you need for quality filtering and extended drains to match the Platinum's life of service.

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Agreed, although an "economy" filter from Champs, Fram, or Purolator would accomplish the same task and it is very unlikely that one would notice the difference in engine life or performance because of the filter used.

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If that's your choice -- then do it. I choose a little better filter for extended drains. I think the performance & filtering is better/longer. I've tried both avenues. I have a cleaner dipstick longer using filters like Pure Ones & Napa Golds -- also never face dry starts using filters like Pure Ones & Napa Golds.

I do experience darker dipsticks earlier - plus dry starts in extended OCIs with Frams, Champs like Supertech & Purolator Premium Plus. However, the Purolator Motorcaft has the threaded-end valve - so no dry starts there in extended OCIs.

I also realize some posters here have wonderful experiences with cheap, nitrile filters. I don't & do not recommend them.

 

[Axe Man]

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Drained Mobil 1 5W-20 and filled with Pennzoil Platinum 5W-20 last weekend. The Pennzoil Platinum seems to make the engine idle a little smoother so far. I also used a PureOne oil filter, which I purchased at my local AA (PL14610 I think).

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I use PL14610 in the Civic.

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First Impressions:
The filter has a reddish/orange sealing ring that is slightly dark. The sealing ring was clean, but at first glance I thought that it was dirty.

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Notice same. Supposedly impregnated with Teflon to make removal easier.

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The steel center tube does not extend all the way down to the bottom of the oil filter. There is ~1/4" of open area below the center tube where one can see the filter media.

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Ditto. I don't consider it an issue.

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Gently shaking the filter produces a sound that something is moving back and forth inside the filter's housing. Could this be the relief valve's spring?

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Now this would worry me. In light of this defective Purolator PL22821 that I discovered last month...

http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...ge=8#Post997926

I now perform a "shake test" on every filter I buy. I did NOT notice anything rattling around in the PL14610 that I installed this past weekend.

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What an ugly paint job...Yuck! I know, I am splitting hairs on this one.

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I didn't find any issues with the paint job on my sample.

 

[02zx9r]

I use the 14610 on my streetbike with no known issues that I know of. I use pl14477 on my corolla. Get them mostly at amazon.com 2 for $5.88

 

[mfisher1967]

Thanks for your reply to my post. I have sent an email to Purolator, asking if the noise I heard confirms that I have installed a defective filter. Were you able to determine if your filter was defective? I may do the safe thing and install a new filter no matter how Purolator responds.

Stay tuned...

 

[sciphi]

I just installed one (PL14459) on my 99 Hyundai Elantra. The lifter tick it usually has on cold startup is drastically reduced. That could also be the Schaeffer's 7000 or the Auto-RX maintenance dose working also.

 

[pbm]

I prefer the regular Purolator filter (over the Pureone) in the colder months because it flows better. In warmer months you can't beat the Pureone for the price.

 

[Axe Man]

Originally Posted By: mfisher1967
Thanks for your reply to my post. I have sent an email to Purolator, asking if the noise I heard confirms that I have installed a defective filter. Were you able to determine if your filter was defective? I may do the safe thing and install a new filter no matter how Purolator responds.

Stay tuned...



I returned it to Advance Auto. The clerk agreed that the filter was defective.

 

[mfisher1967]

I called Purolator's filter hotline today and was told that it would be best to remove the filter as soon as possible as per their engineering department. Purolator plans to send me a kit to return the suspect filter for inspection.

Though I probably could have got by with replacing the filter and topping off the oil, I decided to do a full drain/fill. This seemed to be the safest approach, though some will surely say that it was overkill. I also caught a sample for UOA, which should help to confirm whether or not the filter's bypass valve was leaking by. Given the short run of ~250 miles I am not expecting to see too much, but you never know. I wonder if I hold the record for the shortest run on Pennzoil Platinum 5W-20 and a Pure One PL14610, which as I have stated was only ~250 miles.

I hope that Purolator will reimburse me the nearly $50 that I will end up spending as a result of this incident (5 quarts of Pennzoil Platinum 5W-20, Pure One PL14610, BSL's UOA). That does not even include the money I spent today on more oil and another filter.

On a more positive note, the folks at Purolator were great to deal with. They quickly acknowledged that the filter seemed to be defective and were concerned about my vehicle. Replies were prompt and professional, which is unusual these days. All companies will have batches of defective products from time to time, and Purolator is no exception. their service after the sale has been perfect so far.

Just be sure to do a quick shake check on your filters before you buy/install them.

Stay tuned...