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Originally Posted By: JustinH
Why are you pumping the oil out the top when you still have to go to the bottom of the car to change the filter?

I can see doing this in a car that has a weird cover over the bottom of the car, or is otherwise a pain to drain the oil but the crown vic 4.6 is simple.

I had Rhino Ramps when I was in New York and they worked great.

You will still be crawling around just as much changing that filter, maybe take it somewhere that has a lift and let them do it?

Great car by the way, mine didn't use a drop of oil either, I just got a little bored with it so to speak.



I was hoping to only go under the car every second oil change (15,000 miles total) instead of every 5000 miles now. I just don't feel safe under there, and have also heard negatives about ramps.
 
One time I used Supertech syn 5w20 in my 03 Crown Vic and had to change it early. Started consuming oil at the tune of a quart every 1,500 miles and you could smell the engine burning it. Changed to Chevron 5w30 conventional and it went back to burning a quart every 3,500 miles.
 
I have an '07 Crown Vic P71 that I bought a couple months back with 133,000 on it. It was a former NC Highway Patrol car with 2060 idle hours on it. The state did oil changes every 6K miles (often times slightly sooner) with 5W20 synthetic blend. At 137,000 it has not used any oil. Even run hard like that, it doesn't seems to have bothered it.

I vote change the filter (Motorcraft) every time regardless of oil or change interval (A synthetic or synthetic blend every 7,500 sounds like a happy medium to me.) Also, nothing wrong with that Havoline your using every 5-6K. If it doesn't use the Havoline, I'd stick with it. It's good oil.
 
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When I switched my civic to synthetic, I used supertech. It used more oil than normal for the first 3k and got very dark. I changed it and used same full synthetic supertech again, and now I am about 4k into this oci. Only used about 1/4 quart in the last 4k miles and oil doesn't look nearly as dark. Guess it just had to get used to it? Sweet car you got by the way. 100k it's still a baby.
 
Originally Posted By: Studebaker
Originally Posted By: JustinH
Why are you pumping the oil out the top when you still have to go to the bottom of the car to change the filter?

I can see doing this in a car that has a weird cover over the bottom of the car, or is otherwise a pain to drain the oil but the crown vic 4.6 is simple.

I had Rhino Ramps when I was in New York and they worked great.

You will still be crawling around just as much changing that filter, maybe take it somewhere that has a lift and let them do it?

Great car by the way, mine didn't use a drop of oil either, I just got a little bored with it so to speak.



I was hoping to only go under the car every second oil change (15,000 miles total) instead of every 5000 miles now. I just don't feel safe under there, and have also heard negatives about ramps.


I would change the 4 dollar Motorcraft oil filter at every oil change. The book does not specify that this car gets an oil filter every other change, and I would abide by that.

Also, I like to look at suspension parts every 5k to see if anything dangerous is starting to develop.

When I had my Grand Marquis GS, I would take it to the Ford/Lincoln dealer because they ran coupons to change the oil for $25 including tire rotation, and they did a perfect job with Motorcraft 5w30 oil and Motorcraft filter. Its a darn good oil and a good price for their service.

Good deal compared to the $75 service that Toyota wants for my RAV4.
 
I have a Crown Vic and use Rhino Ramps and it works out great. Personally, go to any synthetic you like but I'd change the oil filter every time unless using a really high milage rated one, and I'd not go over 8 or max. 10K on any oil but that is just me. I change synthetic every 6K. My CV has been running M1 for the last 30K and when we removed the valve covers it was amazingly clean.
 
Originally Posted By: NMBurb02
If it is that much of a pain, I would consider M1 EP 0W-20, a Fram Ultra, and a 15k mile OCI.

That's the smart way. Those Ultras in the big size can go a looooonnnng time, lots of spare capacity, double layer of wire-backed synthetic media with silicon ADBV means it can do it no problem. I wouldn't go past 1 year (or 15,000 miles) on Mobil 1 Extended Performance or Castrol Edge Extended Performance though.
 
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